Sunspot Observatory - Theories Thread
1 2018-09-14 by ArmedShadowfox
Ultimately the coincidence of multiple observatories being closed weighs significance on this whole matter. This can't be a PR stunt and can't be related to the AFB's that Sunspot overlooks. Yes, the military wouldn't allow their top secret tech to be on display but they also wouldn't allow this scenario to be so blown up. If you believe they're keeping ETI under wraps, you better believe they know how to keep their tech a secret too.
That numbers it down to one scenario, "what was occurring in space?"
A director from the observatory came out and said the "telescope did not see aliens." And that the footage would be released.
This is a very strange statement. I'm ok with the first statement about aliens, totally acceptable. But then what else could there be that caused several installations to close?
Celestial Phenomenon that we are aware of:
- Asteroids
- Solar Wind
- Sunspots
- Comets
- ? Will add to list based on comments.
212 comments
1 onlyfoolssaywhat 2018-09-14
we only have a few days left
1 ArmedShadowfox 2018-09-14
Based off what?
1 onlyfoolssaywhat 2018-09-14
something got through and its coming this way
1 ArmedShadowfox 2018-09-14
Again, based off what source?
1 fuckeverywhoreson 2018-09-14
The same nothing this whole debacle is made out of. Might as well join the scaremongering while it lasts.
Something new'll come next month and no lesson will be learned.
1 BiologicalPuppet 2018-09-14
It might help if the FBI said something, anything. Curious and/or concerned people are liable to come up with a variety of theories in an attempt to fill the vacuum of information left in the FBI's wake. Surely they could have expected this. Hell, it was probably part of the design.
1 Imsomniland 2018-09-14
why do people talk so mysteriously as if they've got the secret juice and you'll have to play their game to hear the truth.
If you know something, say it. Otherwise this smug-Im-going-to-talk-vague-so-I-sound-like-I-know-something is not just horseshit, it's a waste of all our time.
1 onlyfoolssaywhat 2018-09-14
you really dont want to know
1 Imsomniland 2018-09-14
You know shit all but it's clear you love thinking you're the smartest person in the room.
1 onlyfoolssaywhat 2018-09-14
i really wish i could tell you but it wont be secret for long that much i know to be true
1 Imsomniland 2018-09-14
To everyone else reading. Do not feed this user. No matter how hare you try this guy will insist on hiding underneath bridges and being as inconvenient as possible.
1 onlyfoolssaywhat 2018-09-14
look into your heart, you already know its true
1 LegitimateShoe 2018-09-14
I know what you're talking about.
The event. The thing that changes society as we know it.
It's coming.
1 onlyfoolssaywhat 2018-09-14
yea something is happening, we will know soon enough
1 mrcassette 2018-09-14
Boredom. Larping is just another way to entertain oneself I think.
1 sock_lover 2018-09-14
Sadly, also arrogance.
1 scumbot 2018-09-14
Wannabe-Q
1 bobjohnsonfoundation 2018-09-14
https://solarchatforum.com/viewforum.php?f=4 Nothing unusual on the Solar Chat Forum
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Likely just more fake news to distract us from the Jewish global crime syndicate
1 Caz6000 2018-09-14
Or it's none of above and is related two the two nearby air force bases as it's overlooking so could of been espionage that resulted in the shutdown and no explanation
1 ArmedShadowfox 2018-09-14
But multiple installations around the country were closed down. Is that just a smokescreen?
1 IMA_Catholic 2018-09-14
Which others ones are down? Some have been saying that they are down when only a webcam at the site is actually down but the actual site is still in use.
1 ingeniouspleb 2018-09-14
And someone in another thread pointed out that some cameras that was "taken down" has been down for months and others have just changed adresses
1 fuckeverywhoreson 2018-09-14
Source.
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1 dr_pepper_35 2018-09-14
There is a comment in a thread in r/space concerning this. I'll look to see if I can find it.
But the post explained that while these other facilities were 'offline', they had been so for a notable time before this one was sealed off by the FBI.
1 brittleknight 2018-09-14
Where is the link to the director saying this please. We would like to know.
1 ArmedShadowfox 2018-09-14
I’m on mobile so just copy paste that quote into google
1 brittleknight 2018-09-14
Ive checked and double checked.. no said quote can be found. When you get a second please post a link or retract.
1 ArmedShadowfox 2018-09-14
Dude literally... https://www.google.com/amp/s/gizmodo.com/telescope-did-not-see-aliens-director-of-mysteriously-1829058158/amp
Google that quote and dozens show up.
1 brittleknight 2018-09-14
Dude literally you lied.. intentional or not.. he never said “the footage would be released.” Its not in the article you posted. Your misleading and thats a shame.
1 ArmedShadowfox 2018-09-14
Look right here https://m.imgur.com/zOKEOAC?r
1 brittleknight 2018-09-14
So weird they are changing the quote everywhere.. thats majorly suspicious!
1 mrmidnight89 2018-09-14
APOLOGIZE!!!
1 brittleknight 2018-09-14
For what.. the fact he was presenting a quote without a link and when i did try and find it before posting it was no where to be found? And when i called him out on it it threw a fit? So i called him out again because his link didnt have the quote in it? He didnt even check. So he was able to show the quote was up at one time and has been changed... so what? Its a major quote with major implications and he should of had a link from the get go.
1 mrmidnight89 2018-09-14
No, because Mr Torgue wants you too
1 brittleknight 2018-09-14
Lol SPLOSIONS
1 mrmidnight89 2018-09-14
WICKID GUITAR SOLO!!?!?!! BWEnEneWWEWEEEWEE!
1 scumbot 2018-09-14
The article was changed.
Check out the archived version
1 brittleknight 2018-09-14
Now that is suspicious.. they changing quotes.. woah. There is a huge difference between footage being released and the new data quote. Footage being released implies something odd was seen ... data implies nothing special.
1 scumbot 2018-09-14
Right? Though I'm not convinced it wasn't just that one paper misquoting him, then fixing it. Looking through archived versions of other articles now to see if they changed around the same time too.
1 DonteD92 2018-09-14
This. I think somebody infiltrated the installation as it’s very close in proximity to a missile range in the area
1 ingeniouspleb 2018-09-14
Only a russian tourist, like in the UK?
1 DonteD92 2018-09-14
Ah yes, taking Russian operatives at their word is always the smart move
1 JamesVanDaFreek 2018-09-14
Someone in this thread in /r/space said this:
"Keep in mind that Apache Point Observatory is only a mile away, and it's still operating and open to the public (as far as I can tell). They have the same great view of White Sands and the Air Force base that Sunspot does. This makes me think that it might not be related to anything happening down in the basin."
Source: https://old.reddit.com/r/space/comments/9fint7/fbi_closes_observatory_for_a_security_issue_in/
1 HackedAlias 2018-09-14
October surprise for midterms is going to be out of this world
1 JamesVanDaFreek 2018-09-14
and here's why that's a good thing!
/s
1 EnvironmentalMarket9 2018-09-14
And racism is to blame! -huffpo
1 ShittlaryClinton 2018-09-14
Aliens have identified themselves as non-cia human black females. It would be offensive for scientists to ask them any questions about their home planet or technology.
1 duplexnovella 2018-09-14
I'm afraid of the FF planned to combat any "Octoprises"...
These DS cretins. (Deep state or Demonic Socipaths, take your pick) Have never really been cornered like they are currently.
Get ready for anything from Project Bluebeam, EMPs, Weather manipulation, man-made earthquakes or a missing nuclear suitcase or 3...
1 JosephOrion 2018-09-14
Same
1 IMA_Catholic 2018-09-14
SoHo and most every other solar observatory on the planet are still up and working. The US, China, Japan, most European countries, Russia, and others all actively monitor the Sun and aren't reporting anything strange going on.
1 Tenacious_Dad 2018-09-14
Thats good indeed. But why swarm in with helicopters and high tech gear? Is the FBI searching for signals coming out of the observatory?
1 IMA_Catholic 2018-09-14
Not sure. But the location, I believe, has an excellent view of white sands missile range.
1 Tenacious_Dad 2018-09-14
Yeah, but they could have just made blackout dates and pre emptively closed the facility for 'maintenance'.
1 13-14_Mustang 2018-09-14
How much of the sun can one observatory actually visibly monitor? Maybe other observatories don't need to be shut down because the odds of them viewing it to are small.
1 Space_Pecs 2018-09-14
The entire half that faces the Earth.
1 13-14_Mustang 2018-09-14
But in enough detail to see a ufo emerge?
1 sock_lover 2018-09-14
Depends on how close the UFO is. If it is really close to the sun it would not even be a pixel unless they are zooming into a very specific spot of the sun and gets lucky.
1 13-14_Mustang 2018-09-14
That's the point I'm trying to make. Maybe they only needed to shut down this one because it got lucky.
1 scaredshtlessintx 2018-09-14
So thankful Trump started Space Force just in the nick of time!
1 punisherfist 2018-09-14
Why is everything about Trump and at his expense. I couldn't give a fuxk about trump
1 dankweeddoe 2018-09-14
It's TDS, all these people can do is think about Trump.
1 the-red-wheelbarrow 2018-09-14
I find it ironic whenever I see this that Trump is still tweeting about Hillary
1 Caffequeen 2018-09-14
Why? Has she stopped talking about him? And "what happened"?
1 the-red-wheelbarrow 2018-09-14
No the irony is that Trump supporters make fun of liberals for being critical of Trump, pretending it's obsession ("haha you're so obsessed and angry about Trump it's a syndrome!") Meanwhile Trump rallies still get chants of "lock her up!" showing that Trump and his supporters are the ones with a bizarre unhealthy obsession.
At least Trump is president, giving people a legit reason to be talking about him. Hillary has done pretty much nothing in the last two years, but Trump and his followers can't stop whining about her. But no, we're the ones with the "Derangement Syndrome" /s
1 15tangotx 2018-09-14
SPAAAAACE FOOOORRRCE!!!!!!
1 heresmything 2018-09-14
SPACE FORCE!
1 EnvironmentalMarket9 2018-09-14
not that long ago. In a galaxy right here
. DUNNN dundundumdumfumdundun dunnn
........... SPACE FORCE
It is a period of civil war. Liberal Rebel spaceship striking from a hidden base (soros house) have won their first victory against the trumplactic Empire. During the battle Rebel spies managed to steal secret plans to the Empire’s ultimate weapon the WALL. an armored WALL with enough power to destroy an entire convoy. Pursued by the Empire’s sinister agents (ice) Princess Leia races home aboard her kia. custodian of the stolen plans that can save her people and restore freedom to the galaxy….
1 EatingTurkey 2018-09-14
We have the best space force that's ever existed, without question.
1 tedsmitts 2018-09-14
I would never have heard of this observatory if not for this story, and there's no reason why the FBI had to helicopter in and keep it all hush hush wink wink - I'm perplexed.
1 Tenacious_Dad 2018-09-14
That and other solar observatories are still open. Maybe the international ones didn't see anything or their countries are effectively in control of the observatory employees. Whereas the FBI was worried about an employee in our sunspot observatory leaking sensitive information. It would explain why the post office is also closed.
1 baebaebokchoy 2018-09-14
Do not forget GOD'S promise to Noah. The next time He will use fire to destroy the earth, instead of water. Nimrod thought that day was near; and that's why he tried to build the Tower of Babel, not to avoid a flood but to flee the fire.
1 15tangotx 2018-09-14
Whos nimrod and why did his parents pick that name lol
1 baebaebokchoy 2018-09-14
If you're genuinely curious:
https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1940204.html#1940204
1 DonteD92 2018-09-14
Ah yes the Bible and Q. Two of the most legit sources of information available to us
1 baebaebokchoy 2018-09-14
Did you read the content or are you just going to blow off wisdom when it is handed to you on a platter?
This is why we're told not to throw pearls to swine.
1 cerebral_scrubber 2018-09-14
Surely he didn’t read the what thousand pages in your link. Why is it all the Q people I’ve talked to absolutely refuse to say what they think? All have just posted links to the Q board like they get kickbacks for each click...
1 baebaebokchoy 2018-09-14
The chans can only hold like 750 posts each.
Thousands, lol
Fucking drama. If he wants to learn he will click and read.
Those who shill will try to distract and divide.
Whatever man :) It's out there now.
1 DonteD92 2018-09-14
Is it even possible to learn anything from the Bible or Q, other than the fact people are gullible of course.
1 cerebral_scrubber 2018-09-14
On the scroll chief, and a bit tongue in cheek, but still you didn’t say anything about what you think it means just like all the other Q folks.
Did you read the content?
1 baebaebokchoy 2018-09-14
Why do you want my opinion when you could look for yourself at primary sources of information and form your own opinion?
1 cerebral_scrubber 2018-09-14
I’m just curious why no Q follower I’ve talked to has ever been able to articulate their beliefs. Literally all of the Q followers I’ve talked to flat out refuse to discuss anything and just post links to a bunch of other posts.
I’m certainly not against reading on my own, it’s just really weird to me that Q followers are so against sharing their opinions.
1 baebaebokchoy 2018-09-14
I would be trolled and banned for sharing my opinion. My speech is blocked.
1 cerebral_scrubber 2018-09-14
Private message me, I won’t do either.
1 SketchTeno 2018-09-14
The fabled character who was turned into the orion constellation in the winter sky/ hunting season. A mighty hunter
1 15tangotx 2018-09-14
OK now I'm curious haha I'll go look this Nimrod guy up. Maybe get some pointers for deer season!?
1 SketchTeno 2018-09-14
May Nimrod Grant you a 16 point deer this coming season~!
1 Draculasbitch62 2018-09-14
Numbnut was already used.
1 III_Key 2018-09-14
I hope its aliens (or Bluebeam I guess)
1 jakekajakekaj 2018-09-14
I wonder if the Native Americans were hoping for the white man to sail over any day now
1 BiologicalPuppet 2018-09-14
It would help if the FBI said something, anything. Curious and/or concerned people are liable to come up with a variety of theories in an attempt to fill the vacuum of information left in the FBI's wake. Surely they could have expected this. Hell, it was probably part of the design.
1 Tenacious_Dad 2018-09-14
I think the FBI didn't expect to have to jump in so quickly....thus landing in helicopters. It was unexpected. Now they need to come up with a plausible narrative.
1 deadman924 2018-09-14
http://www.aura-astronomy.org/news/mobileNews.asp?newsID=388
This was just posted on the AURA website. The theories about it being related to the air force bases may be correct. They are addressing a “security issue”.
1 ArmedShadowfox 2018-09-14
Idk, I just don't see the correlation. The director of the NSO said "the footage will be released." That has nothing to do with AFB's.
1 thewesticle 2018-09-14
I believe it's important to note that he said the "data" will be released, unaltered....not "footage".
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1 ArmedShadowfox 2018-09-14
Everywhere I’ve looked says “footage” not data
1 scumbot 2018-09-14
Can you provide some links? All I'm seeing is "All data will be made public in its unaltered form".
1 47dniweR 2018-09-14
Because the original statement said "footage". I saw it myself. The wording was changed later. Go read the ats forum thread around page 75. Its throughly discussed.
https://i.imgur.com/zOKEOAC.jpg
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1217754/pg75
1 scumbot 2018-09-14
Thanks!
1 NoOpinionsPleaseEver 2018-09-14
This is my pet theory as well. What I heard was a theory that the Chinese had hacked various things at the observatory and were using them to monitor the missile range next door. No evidence of it of course, but it sounds plausible.
1 ArmedShadowfox 2018-09-14
Yeah that would make sense for all the hoopla but still doesn’t answer why the director mentioned footage.
1 TuxAndMe 2018-09-14
I would imagine he mentions footage because the largest noisemaker theory is that they caught something unusual in their normal monitoring routine. Hence, releasing the footage from that time period. Of course, who's to say that footage or any footage at all isn't doctored.
1 scumbot 2018-09-14
The quote was "All data will be made public in its unaltered form", no mention of footage. Not sure why people keep saying that here.
1 47dniweR 2018-09-14
Because the original statement said "footage". It was changed later.
https://i.imgur.com/zOKEOAC.jpg
1 scumbot 2018-09-14
Whoa, that's wild
1 scumbot 2018-09-14
Also, you can check the wayback machine. It archived a copy before they changed it:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180914021849/https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/telescope-did-not-see-aliens-but-sunspot-mystery-continues/5069947/
1 47dniweR 2018-09-14
Thank you.
1 SquidSauceIsGood 2018-09-14
From the article...
From the second video link in the description at 2:58 the note on the door says...
1 mrcassette 2018-09-14
Using the laundromat to be close to the observatory and use it's internal comms surreptitiously to get into local military bases. That's my TV conspiracy theory.
1 JamesVanDaFreek 2018-09-14
So, here's some of the internet's ideas:
1) Disgruntled employee planning to do bad things at the observatory.
2) Chinese operitive working within the site doing spy stuff.
3) Something is happening with the sun and we all are kill. A bunch of solar cams are offline.
4) The observatory site overlooks Holloman AFB. Something is happening there and the site is shut down to prevent witnesses.
5) Bomb or something got sent to the post office there.
6)The observatory rotates on a bearing suspended in 120 gallons of liquid mercury. It’s possible that someone was attempting to steal it for use as a poison in a bio terror attack
7) Sheriff of the county can't make sense of why the FBI got involved so quickly. Claims of Black Hawk Helicopters around the site. The site was shutdown September 6th, and still no official word.
1 Tenacious_Dad 2018-09-14
I think the observatory had an employee that was going to leak info and the FBI got wind of it. Closing the observatory and the post office. I imagine the rest of the employees follow the strict code of silence on matters involving secrecy.
1 earned_potential 2018-09-14
But why would people need to evacuate their homes? Why is the facility still evacuated?
1 Tenacious_Dad 2018-09-14
My other thought is that there was a leak of Mercury. Someone posted saying the observatory sits on a ton of it for rotation and balance. If Mercury in a large amount was leaking it could explain an evacuation. But this doesn't account for the post office search. Nor someone drilling holes in the ISS.
1 cyan2k 2018-09-14
You forgot that one theory that this observatory is important for HARP and controlling Florence and something "special" is going to happen to that hurricane...
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/9fv07l/a_caller_calls_ground_zero_and_talks_about_harp/
1 EatingTurkey 2018-09-14
Nice round up. Thank you. It's disappointing that aliens did not make the list, but I'll live.
The holes in every theory come down to the action taken in response to "the event."
Why shut down other solar cams around the world?
Why evacuate a post office?
Why move residents out of the area and take zero action to ensure the curious public isn't wandering around the property?
With all of these theories you can point to one of those three points above and ask if that theory is true, why do x?
For the record I still want to know what prankster dropped an X Files dvd off in an unoccupied lab.
1 jakekajakekaj 2018-09-14
"Aliens"
I wonder if the Native Americans were hoping for Christopher Columbus to sail over
1 RocketSurgeon22 2018-09-14
Telescope holds several ton of metallic mercury which is not as dangerous as organic mercury.
1 Jaxx81 2018-09-14
I posted this in another thread here about Sunspot as well and it could be nothing, but there's multiple observatories all around the world that had their cams shut down as well.
https://youtu.be/Ys1o1d69lnQ
1 EnvironmentalMarket9 2018-09-14
We need to build a wall around the earth and make the martians pay for it
1 TrouthSeekeur 2018-09-14
Some of the other sites down may be unrelated. Reportedly some have been down for some time.
Also I doubt it's related to the military bases around as those can be seen from many other places around.
It could still be spying related like some device enabling a connection to that high speed network the lab was connected to. Quite possibly that network link is coming from the tower/antennae where some work was done (to remove such spying device?).
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1 deserttrailer 2018-09-14
Ill repost my comment from another thread
Wonder if this has anything to do with that long asteroid from outside the solar system that passed by the sun year ago.
https://www.space.com/38838-interstellar-asteroid-oumuamua-space-cigar.html
been thinking about it for some time. If you were gonna set a space craft to another star system youd want a detachable booster to get your speed up and then a detachable booster to slow you down when you get close to the star system.
When you detach the booster and use the next stage the booster would still be going super fast and would arrive ahead of you.
That big cigar asteroid swung by the sun on a perfect tragetory to sling it out of the solar system which is just how youd want it to go if it were a disposible booster.
So maybe a year later the space craft has decelerated and is swinging by the sun so their closing solar observatorys to keep is quiet.
I dont know maybe its far fetched but cool to think on
1 13-14_Mustang 2018-09-14
This is a fun comment.
1 EnvironmentalMarket9 2018-09-14
Unless they decided to travel for thousands (millions?) Of years then there's no way they would have traveled from a different solar system without using something faster than light speed
And if they did use something faster than light speed it wouldn't be as silly as a long asteroid or a booster
1 ijustwantedtopostthi 2018-09-14
Lol, silly as a long asteroid. Hah, people have thought for decades now, that a cigar ship is probably the most efficient form of a space craft. It helps reduce the chance of impacts from speeding through space.
Is it possible that its like sumerian legend claims, these gods found this planet, helped speed up our evolution. They fought a civil war about what to do with us, when the war was over, they left this planet to go back to their homeplanet, leaving a handful of beings behind to watch over everything.
I know this sounds far fetched, but if this was a species capable of space travel, chances are they would be bound to the law of physics like the rest of us physical beings, a 100 years at light speed for them, could be tens of thousands of years for us.
1 Workmask 2018-09-14
This is actually a pretty cool theory.
1 brittleknight 2018-09-14
My favorite theory
1 ArmedShadowfox 2018-09-14
Yeah I subscribe to the notion of that asteroid being a probe as well. But we already knew about it and it was published when it was originally noticed...so why hush about it now?
1 KingGrowl 2018-09-14
Rendezvous with Rama?
1 Harvision 2018-09-14
You cannot logically think of star-ship capability and then saddle it with simplistic rocket technology as you do.
The info of a people (service crews) on towers is about the most interesting aspect that I've read about. Add the searching of local homes and we damned well know that some of the locals and the staff know what happened and steps have been taken to contain the spread of the data.
Given the unusual nature of this situation, please, please do not believe a single word of what the authorities (governmental and MSM) attempt to tell us. I remind you that both pulsars and quasars were discovered and kept secret months and even years for one of those signals before they were official announced as natural phenomena (which is still in question for some of us.)
1 ijustwantedtopostthi 2018-09-14
About the starships. Im like op, I keep thinking about oumuamua also, althought i didnt think of it being a booster. I thought of if as being probe or something, I just found it very odd that the mainstream told us that they were examining the object to see if it was emitting radio waves, that just seems like a really weird thing to say. Couple that with this is the first object we have ever seen that cant be from our solar system. Apparently something was very odd with its movement also.
http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/oumuamua-fm-signals-05899.html
https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/06/visitor-from-another-solar-system-may-have-been-a-comet/
(ahahah this article shows its trajectory, its a polar trajectory, the same as planet 9 is theorized to have. )
1 Kayki7 2018-09-14
I would not be surprised it some wild animal accidentally came here from another country...........like a highly toxic/poisonous animal.....explains why everything’s been evacuated, and deserted afterwards (maybe they’re waiting for it to come out/move out/ or die) and the post office might be how it got there. With that being said, the post office closing is not a big deal at all........I mean, why wouldn’t they close it? Everyone’s been evacuated! They’re no citizens to serve lol.
1 placibonm 2018-09-14
twitter rumor...
Q "WATCH THE WATER"A very large area of very warm water never seen before is behind hurricane, HAARP/scalar energy heats atmosphere & water.rumor POTUS kicked the plugs out @ several observatorys across the USA because they were being used in unison to control the weather.
just thought I would add this to the pot of rumors
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1 allnamestakenffs 2018-09-14
Thankyou, I think you replied to my thread (about the UK media covering this) and I could not see it. It appeared on my phone, but by the time i checked the thread it was hidden somehow.
1 placibonm 2018-09-14
imagine that....
1 EatingTurkey 2018-09-14
So is this tweet actually saying DT is protecting us from scientists who unleashed a hurricane on an unsuspecting nation?
1 TuxAndMe 2018-09-14
Interdimensional Chess
1 sock_lover 2018-09-14
And does not want the publicity from doing it.
1 ijustwantedtopostthi 2018-09-14
If thats the case, then this only bolsters the case that this person is a psy op. They arent creating them, but they can steer them a little bit. Its like they are playing the perfect divide and conquer move, pitting the people who are aware to the people who arent, who are sadly starting to outnumber people who actually care about the truth.
1 placibonm 2018-09-14
Twitter story/interview I heard & passed on, not my story but an interesting one.
1 the-red-wheelbarrow 2018-09-14
You think Trump would have enough restraint not to bost about it on twitter?
1 placibonm 2018-09-14
I believe he is much smarter then most think, his delivery needs polishing...but then he would not be Trump.
1 Imsomniland 2018-09-14
He didn't say he was smart. He said he lacked self-control. Which the man does. There's historical evidence of Trump being intelligent and the same historical evidence reflects a man with poor impulse-control.
1 placibonm 2018-09-14
IMHO it is all a school play, planed out in advance enjoy the show or be afraid. I'm enjoying the show.
1 ijustwantedtopostthi 2018-09-14
http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/mimic-tpw/main.html5.php?&basin=global
That would explain what we are seeing there. They dont create these hurricanes, but it looks they have the ability to steer them a little bit, I knew they could heat up the air, I didnt even think about heating up the water. They blasted the shit out of that hurricane and nudged it north into the colder air mass where it destabilized. If there is a scientific explanation of what is being seen, im all ears.
1 Kayki7 2018-09-14
No, they set up HAARP on Antarctica because it’s away from prying eyes. No one to see what’s going on! HAARP was supposedly shut down in 2015 I believe, but do you really think they were going to shut down a program that allowed them to control the weather? I don’t think so! Now I’m not saying they use HAARP for nefarious things like intensify hurricanes, but they absolutely could! They have the ability too. I said this the second I watched blue coolaides video on the atmosphere and all that sudden energy surrounding it, and the bending/expanding of the atmosphere, that it looked like classic HAARP........the whole program is based on shooting energy into the ionosphere, making it bulge, which in turn heats up the area and allows for weather modification (there’s more to it but for the sake of TL DR). The shooting of this energy into the ionosphere is also what causes the strange, trumpet-like sounds that people have been reporting all over the world. They all think it’s end-times related, when it’s just HAARP!
1 duplexnovella 2018-09-14
^ T H I S ^
Thank you!
1 LEGALinSCCCA 2018-09-14
I love this. Old school conspiracies. It doesn't matter how far fetched it is. Say it. Thinking outside the box is necessary for freedom and liberty to prevail. Liberty dies through construction, censorship, etc.
1 Xaviermgk 2018-09-14
Awesome
1 1nfiniteJest 2018-09-14
Rendezvous With Rama?
1 casesully50 2018-09-14
I've been daydreaming about this comment for 20 minutes. It's an awesome theory but in the back of my mind I know it doesn't explain the way every one left the town. I would think if someone observed something like that the one that knew would be taken away. Not everyone in the surrounding area.
1 whateverslutinspace 2018-09-14
weather far fetched or not, your science checks out
1 Human_with_Brain 2018-09-14
Let’s not forget the fact that we saw video footage from the grounds of the observatory posted here. If the place was dangerous - one would hope that more security would be in place. And if it were an espionage situation and the good guys were trying to keep a lid on - well that has failed and they might as well come out with “yeah, the bad guys were using our equipment to spy on us”.
I hate posts that propose ungrounded theories - but I do note that at the same time we have this situation we have two major storms. Florence acted weird - from a storm that was not expected to be a threat it turned into the biggest north-of-Florida storm ever and then quickly lost energy. And at the same time there is a massive storm on the other side of the planet. Could it be that evildoers added energy to Florence and that US technology mitigated the storm and in retaliation we created the megatyphoon. In some way the observatory would have been able to detect all this activity and this was temporarily shut down. I don’t have a shred of evidence here - but my monkey brain is trying to make this one story
1 ArmedShadowfox 2018-09-14
Well, if they did geo-engineer Florence they wasted a lot of effort. It’s not going to do a good deal of damage to any significant cities...no offense to anyone in the Carolinas. Also, I’d like to know how one can know if a storm was geo-engineered. I do find it odd that there wasn’t a single peep about hurricanes all August.
1 xytrasx 2018-09-14
From Tweet de @adiobox: https://twitter.com/adiobox/status/1040692037710954496?s=09 Its very strsnge
1 Employee_073291 2018-09-14
They didn’t say they had footage of anything. They said they would release the “data” they have whatever that means.
1 ArmedShadowfox 2018-09-14
https://m.imgur.com/zOKEOAC?r
1 Employee_073291 2018-09-14
I’ll give you that one. Hopefully there’s a new development on this soon.
1 Random_Name_3001 2018-09-14
Telescope time is very coveted, I vote disgruntled researcher bomb threat.
OR
A piece of an experimental drone or aircraft fell the observatory property and needed to be recovered.
1 Aiox123 2018-09-14
Anyone else check out the video that's on this page?
https://bendedreality.com/is-mysterious-shutdown-of-observatories-connected-to-ufo-sighted-near-the-sun/
1 russellallyn99 2018-09-14
Those “pictures she took of spaceships” are clearly lens flares and reflection of sunlight inside lens on picture.
The two objects passing in front of the sun is some weird stuff tho....
1 russellallyn99 2018-09-14
Both my neighbor and I both had crazy power spikes in our solar panel PV array yesterday. Our systems are <10kW and we both spiked at noon EDT to over 15 kWH... coincidence?? I say solar flare
1 ArmedShadowfox 2018-09-14
What’s strange is there’s no mention of a flare anywhere. It’s usually highly documented...
1 TuxAndMe 2018-09-14
My apartment community has experienced power flickers for a week now. Same time of day, every day.
I don't think this event has anything to do with that, but the imagination engine in me is going wild.
1 Undeletable123 2018-09-14
Maybe something is happening with the sun. I'm no sun expert, but if we are getting solar power flickers same time every day for a week, and solar cams are getting shut down, its possible something is going to happen with the sun.
1 Nicholle89 2018-09-14
I’m in Ontario Canada and my power has been going on and off in the afternoon this last week. Didn’t think anything of it until I read your comment
1 trump_the_donald 2018-09-14
crazy thought, but that one house that blew up in boston due to gas had a lot of solar panels all over the house and garage - this one https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1040379829357617155
1 russellallyn99 2018-09-14
I thought those houses blew because of gas lines? We don’t have natural gas here
1 perfect_pickles 2018-09-14
Neal Stephenson novel Anathema.
1 sHaDowpUpPetxxx 2018-09-14
It's all publicity for the next Metal Gear game. Kojima's termination from Konami was just a red herring.
1 Red_Lobby 2018-09-14
bold
Just the facts:
1. A Blackhawk helicopter was quickly mobilized to the area, and presumably belonged to the FBI although this remains unverified.
PLEASE ADD TO THIS LIST.
1 mrmidnight89 2018-09-14
17. He first said, the "footage" would be made public, later the quote was changed to, the "data" would be made public. Strongly implying some kind of cover up imo, of what I have no fuckin clue but it's really interesting.
1 gwoz8881 2018-09-14
The observatory just takes in a bunch of data then they run it through a bunch of algorithms to get pictures or video.
1 jimmyjames0100 2018-09-14
Why is no one mentioning how In the video posted it seems to show two objects of different sizes and trajectory? I mean are we talking Planet X shit?
1 Ashantis_Sideburns 2018-09-14
Are you talking about the eclipse footage that showed two objects? If so this might explain it. https://amp.space.com/41489-double-solar-eclipse-satellite-photos-august-2018.html
1 jimmyjames0100 2018-09-14
Indeed that’s it. Ty
1 Kcee101 2018-09-14
The best theory I read is that the observatory was hacked by the Chinese government and turned it towards the white sands national monument where there is a base there. But then how do you explain the over observatories being blacked out?
1 heej 2018-09-14
Why use an observatory when you could just use satellites? That smells like disinfo to me every time I see it being parroted out here. Just blame BRICS
1 Kcee101 2018-09-14
Sorry I’m not trying to disinfo. Just want to know the truth and you have a valid point about the satellites.
1 heej 2018-09-14
Oh no, I know you're not. Just saying, the origin of that theory might be. Cuz of the satellite thing haha
1 sock_lover 2018-09-14
Also, I don't think a telescope built to have a close look at the sun will work great on something only a mile away.
1 SernyRanders 2018-09-14
Regarding the Blackhawk, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but afaik the FBI doesn't operate Blackhawks.
1 kabartanto 2018-09-14
Their hostage rescue team uses blackhawks
1 nanoman25 2018-09-14
What if this is a FALSE FLAG ATTACK against us americans. Do yall know that trumps attorney pleaded guilty to Mueller! Mean while we're all over here thinking about aliens and comets. Maybe the government is slowly using these events to cover up and give way to Trump's pardon all while we are.too busy with Aliens and SUN SPOTS ...lol just my thought tho. I would love to hear y'alls opinion about this. I havent seen anyone mention I yet.
1 iseeyoubruh 2018-09-14
My personal theories based on the footage and info I've trawled through
1 Godgivesmeaboner 2018-09-14
If it was a biohazard or radioactive hazard wouldn't they have quarantined and closed off the area? They just evacuated everyone and did nothing to secure the area since people were walking around and filming inside the facility
1 zepperdude 2018-09-14
I'll add my uninformed two cents. Government(s) confirming trajectory/possible impact of a newly discovered object that was obscured by the sun.
1 alienrefugee51 2018-09-14
Conditioning for an alien false flag? Not now please, wait til next year guys.
1 russellallyn99 2018-09-14
Spectrum had an internet outage this week. Loads of people were offline for a day or more. No explanation
https://www.wftv.com/news/local/internet-networks-down-at-orange-county-public-schools-officials-say/830709611
Then we have power outages across central Florida and Tampa. Then gas line explosions north of Boston. What’s all this about?
1 tostilocos 2018-09-14
Thinking the closing of the PO is to prevent info leaks is silly. Anybody who could have mailed something could more easily drive somewhere and share it, post it online, etc.
This whole story is wonky but let’s focus on he actually interesting bits.
1 ArmedShadowfox 2018-09-14
Then why close it at all?
1 macko939 2018-09-14
Well if they're evacuating everyone then what sense would it make to evacuate all but the post office staff
1 dashtonal 2018-09-14
No, if its raw data that's huge often the best way is to actually mail a physical hard drive
I can say that's still a thing in the genomics world
1 FringeTank 2018-09-14
Someone needs to ask the President he seriously couldn't help himself to spill the beans.
1 jakekajakekaj 2018-09-14
Wow that drone video is cool. Its like every man can be a spy now lol
1 ArmedShadowfox 2018-09-14
Moreso to point out how easy it is to fly a drone in this area, therefore knock down the spy theory.
1 ToadCreature 2018-09-14
It’s not: An earth destroying solar flare being detected. Because: Said flare would have already hit us and it would have been detected by one of the thousands of other observatories on the planet.
It’s not: Mercury leak or chemical spill. Because: No hazmat was present and there would most likely be no need to be so secretive about such a thing.
It’s not: Some kind of hazardous substance mailed to the observatory via the post office. Because: Again, no presence of hazmat and also unlikely they’d be so secretive.
It’s not: Some foreign entity attempting to visually spy on Holloman / White Sands. Because: The are numerous, unrestricted places on that mountain where you can look down upon the base with a clear view.
It’s not: Some kind of military or extraterrestrial material that landed in the area. Because: The military would be the main responding agency, in that case.
It’s not: A Mexican cartel placing some kind of repeater on one of the antennas. Because: How exactly would someone pull that off without being spotted when there were staff / residents on sight 24/7 and most likely multiple security cameras?
The only real remaining possibility is that someone was attempting to hack Holloman / White Sands communications via the observatory’s network / antennas, BUT why would an evacuation even be necessary in that case? I could understand the area being closed while evidence was gathered, but this was a full on, sudden “evacuation” that was done in haste. Why not reopen now that everything has been cleared out and the place has been abandoned?
Fun fact: My father was born at Holloman in the 50s while my grandfather was working on secretive missile projects. Those were Holloman’s golden days. Everything that goes on there now is pretty transparent.
1 silent_woo 2018-09-14
How about something simple.
Trump and the Trump administration are essentially global warming deniers. There's plenty of evidence for this - you can simply google this.
What if Trump is flexing his presidential authority and implementing a crack down on scientific institutions that contributes towards global warming research? Could the Sunspot Observatory be such a place?
Is this closure of the observatory be an unwitting pawn in the battle between climate change deniers vs global warming believers?
No aliens, no space related theories. Just simple human politics?
1 russellallyn99 2018-09-14
So spaceweather.com reported before today of a ‘crack’ in the sun’s corona sphere (its huge) and it’s facing earth. Now there is a crack opening up in Earths magnetic field that could be as big as the planet itself. Estimated time of arrival for solar wind is Sep 17th. Either we will just get Aurora’s as far south as never before seen and some sparks spewing out of our iPhones. Android will be fine of course. Earth-wide blackout ensues
Check this out: http://www.spaceweather.com/
Maybe Sunspot Observatory was trying to warn us?
1 YDOKT 2018-09-14
The sun is a nucleus of a giant cell. All stars are. It’s now in the final stage of division. Cell division will occure. We’ll have two suns soon. Cell division occured a long time ago too. That’s a brown dwarf now. More info soon...
1 jpschack 2018-09-14
Don’t know if it was already discussed or mentioned.. might there be any connection to the NASA‘s Parker Solar Probe?
1 slyiscoming 2018-09-14
I would not be surprised if there was a bunker under the town and their doing maintenance on it.
Given the nature of the telescope underground work would make the mirror do all sorts of things it should not be doing.
And its actually the perfect spot for one.
1 GameDuchess 2018-09-14
Just randomly chiming in here after following this rabbit hole... We are having some heavy and unusual military jet comings and goings in the San Francisco Bay area. Like, a LOT of flyovers very low. For whatever that means.
1 uber_maddog 2018-09-14
Turns out it was a child porn investigation, they say. https://www.ktsm.com/news/local/el-paso-news/child-pornography-reason-behind-sunspot-observatory-closure-according-to-court-documents/1460386237
1 catxracoon 2018-09-14
apparently a child pornography investigation?
.... feels left field in a sketchy way.
1 IMA_Catholic 2018-09-14
Which others ones are down? Some have been saying that they are down when only a webcam at the site is actually down but the actual site is still in use.
1 fuckeverywhoreson 2018-09-14
Source.
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1 DonteD92 2018-09-14
Ah yes the Bible and Q. Two of the most legit sources of information available to us
1 dr_pepper_35 2018-09-14
There is a comment in a thread in r/space concerning this. I'll look to see if I can find it.
But the post explained that while these other facilities were 'offline', they had been so for a notable time before this one was sealed off by the FBI.
1 onlyfoolssaywhat 2018-09-14
you really dont want to know
1 mrcassette 2018-09-14
Boredom. Larping is just another way to entertain oneself I think.
1 cerebral_scrubber 2018-09-14
I’m just curious why no Q follower I’ve talked to has ever been able to articulate their beliefs. Literally all of the Q followers I’ve talked to flat out refuse to discuss anything and just post links to a bunch of other posts.
I’m certainly not against reading on my own, it’s just really weird to me that Q followers are so against sharing their opinions.
1 baebaebokchoy 2018-09-14
I would be trolled and banned for sharing my opinion. My speech is blocked.
1 brittleknight 2018-09-14
Where is the link to the director saying this please. We would like to know.
1 ArmedShadowfox 2018-09-14
https://m.imgur.com/zOKEOAC?r
1 scumbot 2018-09-14
Wannabe-Q
1 brittleknight 2018-09-14
So weird they are changing the quote everywhere.. thats majorly suspicious!
1 allnamestakenffs 2018-09-14
Thankyou, I think you replied to my thread (about the UK media covering this) and I could not see it. It appeared on my phone, but by the time i checked the thread it was hidden somehow.
1 EatingTurkey 2018-09-14
So is this tweet actually saying DT is protecting us from scientists who unleashed a hurricane on an unsuspecting nation?
1 the-red-wheelbarrow 2018-09-14
You think Trump would have enough restraint not to bost about it on twitter?
1 ijustwantedtopostthi 2018-09-14
http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/mimic-tpw/main.html5.php?&basin=global
That would explain what we are seeing there. They dont create these hurricanes, but it looks they have the ability to steer them a little bit, I knew they could heat up the air, I didnt even think about heating up the water. They blasted the shit out of that hurricane and nudged it north into the colder air mass where it destabilized. If there is a scientific explanation of what is being seen, im all ears.
1 heej 2018-09-14
Why use an observatory when you could just use satellites? That smells like disinfo to me every time I see it being parroted out here. Just blame BRICS