Hidden in plain sight: “Ground Zero”
1 2018-09-27 by Sanderander
The primary working definition of “Ground Zero” is the point at which a nuclear bomb denoates closest to earth.
Why, was this term suddenly used to describe the aftermath of the towers collapsing on 9/11.
After seeing steel spires disengrate into nothingness and dust, I don’t think it’s too far fetched that nuclear bombs were denoated under the WTC. Increased radiation levels, molten metal burning for months, and the lack of debri also provide evidence to the possibility.
I believe those responsible for the actual distruction of the WTC used this term to hide the actuality of the cause of collapse as a means of disclosing information in plain sight. Who would believe they would actually tell us the information in such an upfront manner? And that’s exactly what they want.
I want to reiterate this point. Why would they suddenly use a term solely used to describe nuclear detonation in this circumstance? Think about it.
47 comments
1 Cgtl 2018-09-27
Well, the term "ground zero" is also used to describe the worst area of damage in earthquakes, epidemics, and disasters.
It is used commonly for nuclear bombs, but it's far from exclusive.
1 Sanderander 2018-09-27
Yes but that was post 9/11. I’ve scoured the internet for articles about disaster before then, and haven’t seen one mention. If you have evidence of the above besides a quote from Wikipedia, I would love to see it.
1 Cgtl 2018-09-27
You're right, I was mistaken.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.poynter.org/news/how-we-started-calling-former-world-trade-center-ground-zero
According to this, the WTC site was called ground zero just because some journalist called it that. I don't think that points to a nuclear bomb.
1 Ghostbustaj 2018-09-27
Theres an obviously scripted actor interview that Fox News did on the morning of 9/11 RIGHT AFTER the buildings either got hit or fell (cant remember) and the "random" person and witness called it Ground Zero. RIGHT AFTER THE SHIT HAPPENED. LOL
1 Sanderander 2018-09-27
Love that video... “ yeah man like I was just chilling in my apartment bro and then the next thing [insert official narative that no human alive would be able to deduct from witnessing the event, uses phrases like “collapsed due to structural failure” and then somehow calls it ground zero”] but yeah man... idk dude”
People please open your eyes. That is a scripted fucking video. Why do they need actors repeating the official narative????? Why?????
1 wile_e_chicken 2018-09-27
Harley Guy. Also check out the LITERAL Men In Black stage-managing the scene.
https://youtu.be/edrTAh36Do8
1 Sanderander 2018-09-27
Why not? Because a journalist called it that in no way cancels out the evidence a nuclear bomb was used. What are your reasonings one wasn’t used? Going off the official narative?
Explain to me the radiation levels, the basic disengration of steel, molten metal, fusion of unlike elements, and why a journalist using the word would negate that evidence.
1 Cgtl 2018-09-27
Could you provide a link to the radiation levels?
I've seen no evidence for disintegration of steel.
The molten metal is most likely aluminum.
Don't know anything about fusion of elements. Also, are you saying a fusion bomb was used? Because the lowest power fusion bomb had a yeild of 500 My.
1 RallyToRestoreSanity 2018-09-27
PBS - Tracking El Nino: Origins- Ground Zero
Bosnia's Ground Zero
NYTimes - TERROR IN OKLAHOMA CITY: AT GROUND ZERO
Heritage Foundation: Defusing Terrorism at Ground Zero: Why a New U.S. Policy is Needed for Afghanistan
NCSB - Ground zero: AIDS research in Africa.
Phoenix New Times - Ground Zero
1 wile_e_chicken 2018-09-27
Looks like all Deep State controlled media assets. It would technically be possible to insert these references after the fact, just like they did with the dictionaries.
1 RallyToRestoreSanity 2018-09-27
ok. I guess there's no reason to continue this convo.
1 Sanderander 2018-09-27
“Starting point” is another definition which I outlined in comments below.
1 WestCoastHippy 2018-09-27
See, here are those BS tactics again. Your words are not wrong, they're just not on topic and do not address pre-911 meanings. You're literally just repeating the OP while removing information.
"the term "ground zero" is also used to describe the worst area of damage in earthquakes, epidemics, and disasters."
Technically correct, does not address when that became fact.
"used commonly for nuclear bombs, but it's far from exclusive"
Technically correct, does not address when that became fact.
It was exclusively a nuclear bomb until 9/11, then dictionaries changed the definition to the one you noted: center of the worst damage from any ol' event.
Find "ground zero" in a dictionary pre- 9/11 without the world nuclear (or atomic or hydrogen) bomb, or stop spreading disinformation.
1 Sanderander 2018-09-27
exactly! In my research I have found no evidence this term was ever used to describe anything other than nuclear detonations before 9/11, besides the term being used as a “starting point”. Which is ironic because I beleive this is the starting point to understanding what actually happened on 9/11...
1 spellingbotwithtumor 2018-09-27
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1 Sanderander 2018-09-27
My bad bro! :)
1 WestCoastHippy 2018-09-27
GTFO with this bot, in general.
1 Cgtl 2018-09-27
You're right. I was wrong on that one.
1 RallyToRestoreSanity 2018-09-27
PBS - Tracking El Nino: Origins- Ground Zero
Bosnia's Ground Zero
NYTimes - TERROR IN OKLAHOMA CITY: AT GROUND ZERO
Heritage Foundation: Defusing Terrorism at Ground Zero: Why a New U.S. Policy is Needed for Afghanistan
NCSB - Ground zero: AIDS research in Africa.
Phoenix New Times - Ground Zero
1 wile_e_chicken 2018-09-27
Gosh that's handy! What shared database did you pull that from?
1 LoganLinthicum 2018-09-27
You're attacking the source, not addressing the argument. Ground zero was used to refer to the site of a disaster ling before 9/11
1 wile_e_chicken 2018-09-27
Was it? Every one of those sources could have been manipulated. Hell, they printed backdated dictionaries to cover this up.
1 RallyToRestoreSanity 2018-09-27
So you believe that an ER episode titled "Ground Zero" that aired in 1997 was manipulated post-9/11?
1 wile_e_chicken 2018-09-27
Entirely possible. They manipulated tons of media with their "Mandella Effect" psyop.
1 LoganLinthicum 2018-09-27
Your beliefs aren't falsifiable. You're just going to believe what you want.
Literally anything is possible. Doesn't make all things equally likely.
1 wile_e_chicken 2018-09-27
We've seen this sort of media deception before -- backdated dictionaries. Considering the logistics of that, electronic media is a piece of cake. This would be entirely consistent with past behavior.
1 LoganLinthicum 2018-09-27
The ER episode isn't electronic media. If you had any interest in actually getting at if this is true or not, with relatively little effort track down a VHS at a library or a microfilm of an episode listing in a paper or something.
But but but those could be fakes too. I know, I get it, your mind is already made up and you already know the truth. This is true problem with belief systems that aren't falsifiable.
Beyond the practicality, it's just a ludicrous amount of effort for the tiniest possible gain.
Your mind is made up, I know that. I'm speaking past you to anyone who might be reading this a mind that is open to updating its beliefs.
1 wile_e_chicken 2018-09-27
If they backdated frikkin dictionaries dude.. across many different publishers. Library copies would definitely be altered. Your only chance would be somebody who bought the ER box set pre-2001. Oh wait the box set wasn't released until 2002. Well fudge.
1 LoganLinthicum 2018-09-27
Unfalsifiable belief system is unfalsifiable.
1 wile_e_chicken 2018-09-27
It's not a belief system. I look for suspicious stuff and I dig. Sometimes it comes up empty; sometimes gold. Most of the times, it just results in leaning this way or that. We're never 100% on anything. Question everything.
1 RallyToRestoreSanity 2018-09-27
Google Search "ground zero" - Tools - Custom time range - Begin 1990, End 2000
1 wile_e_chicken 2018-09-27
Been there, done that. On mobile now, but IIRC it gave results for "ground. Zero" and actual references to nuclear detonations.
1 RallyToRestoreSanity 2018-09-27
It gave the results I shared. Hardly any of the results were references to nuclear detonations. Buncha band names, song lyrics stuff. Even some Wrestling (WWF) stuff. But not much about nuclear detonations. Not even stuff about North Korea and detonations.
1 wile_e_chicken 2018-09-27
The WWF thing was literally a reference to a nuclear blast:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_Zero:_In_Your_House#/media/File%3AIYH17.jpg
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1 RallyToRestoreSanity 2018-09-27
Yeah, I said not much.
1 WestCoastHippy 2018-09-27
And this guy does the work! Not dictionary entries but those do show cultural usage.
1 Kendle_C 2018-09-27
It was a psy-op and naming it adds to the cognitive dissonance driving you terrorized into a decerebrate, non-discerning, complicity, yearning for Daddy to protect you which is why the Patriot Act was already written and being held for release by Joe Biden. It is the largest mass brainwashing ever attempted, a success for the military industrial banking mafia. They got their wars and money machine and you cower in the dark.
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The incongruities in the stories add to the dissonance on purpose: the passport, the wingless jet at the Pentagon, the freefall of the towers, Building 7. The result is equivalent of a mental hairball against which you can only experience revulsion, frustrated, you suppress, ignore, and are pummeled into inaction.
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Instead of demanding righteous justice, revenge even, against the still living and thriving cabal responsible for the event, they now trot out the thousands of cancer victims drives you further into a hellish twilight, dismal inactivity: this is the experience of living in an evil corrupt milieu.
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Beginning the process of rounding up the fuckers could be as easy as identifying the shills and disinformation artists here who are busy erasing the evidence or shunting you off on wild goose chases. Demand justice.
1 Sanderander 2018-09-27
I agree 100% except we know who did it and following the shills isn’t needed imo. Love seeing people argue for the official narative on this sub...
1 Kendle_C 2018-09-27
Corbett report comes closest to nailing the bastards and I get no enjoyment from people rehashing the "official narrative" so, as such you pooped in the punch with that part of your remark. We need to be ravenous for justice. These fuckers intentionally terrorized us...how can that be cool?
1 Sanderander 2018-09-27
Wasn’t trying to say you were arguing for the official naratve and I was being sarcastic when saying I love that people argue for the official narative on this sub. It’s so obvious they are shills. Hence the ...
1 Kendle_C 2018-09-27
Consider the turd removed, thanks.
1 wile_e_chicken 2018-09-27
They even back-dated dictionaries to make it seem like it was always a general, non-nuclear definition. Dimitri Khalazov has hard copies.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/9dfqen/the_term_ground_zero_used_to_refer_specifically/
1 Sanderander 2018-09-27
Super nice find dude. The fact that they back dated shit is damning in and of itself.
1 localjargon 2018-09-27
I actually do remember that phrase also being used to describe other disaster areas, like the neighborhood that Hurricane Andrew destroyed. But after 911, if you say ground zero, that's what people think of, so it's no longer used so flippantly.
1 wile_e_chicken 2018-09-27
If they backdated frikkin dictionaries dude.. across many different publishers. Library copies would definitely be altered. Your only chance would be somebody who bought the ER box set pre-2001. Oh wait the box set wasn't released until 2002. Well fudge.