r/conspiracy Help me solve this: Excerpt from latest WIKILEAKS doc's - US ARMY growing POPPY Seeds?
25 2010-10-21 by DamHereComesThaMan
This was posted on GLP over and over again, and the user i think was banned.. usually i would pass anything over there as BS, but after doing a copy paste of the info i cant let go that it might be real... Here is the copied post
Attacks on women; A. Rashid Dostum based in Mazar-i-Sharif. Issued fatwa (religious decree) ordering assassination of women of #36342e313031393633-33322e353033323437# AO will only add to dilute divergence, given Mujahideen style combatants (Coll, 18833: 6A) ~PR campaigns do not reach A.Ja Network(s). Affirmative action towards A. ~Dostum is not necessary as ADSIDs currently monitor casualties.
36342e313031393633-33322e353033323437# AO occupied with non-steadfast Product O. dissidents illustrating disclosure uncertainties. Casualties threatening maximum yield are therefore recognized as acceptable.
Public knowledge of Product O. is primary threat. (Cad #2 18831:9G)
Reddit is it just me, or does this sound like they're letting aid workers, or women die to keep the media off them growing opium/heroin???
*edit.. lines
42 comments
13 _red 2010-10-21
So little we know about history, eh?
The anglo / british empire has been peddling drugs for a few centuries now - perhaps you heard of the "Opium Wars" (yes, there were 2 of them) against China.
This is what resulted in the British gaining Hong Kong when they defeated the Chinese and procured the Treaty of Nanking (which of course allowed them to continue selling drugs).
Singapore, who are world renown for their anti-drug laws, did not invent such laws out of a puritan sense being teetotalers. Rather, everyone in the region saw what the British were able to do via their drug routes.
With the ascension of the US as a world power in the early 20th century, much of the control and distribution of worldwide drug peddling was turned over to us (specifically, this is one the CIA's main businesses).
Additionally, with the rise of Fractional Reserve Banking - Wall Street got in the game....hell a few years ago the ex-head of the NASDAQ actually flew down to Columbia to meet with the FARC leadership for "investment opportunities" (ie. laundering drug money).
The banking establishment is taking that ~$300B a year in drug money and can frac-reserve it up to $3T or so to continue their ponzi schemes.
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11 _red 2010-10-21
Yes, and its all right out in the open.
No one cares though....
2 obamatheliar 2010-10-21
Exactly. You mention something like this to your co-workers and they'll stare at you like a crackpot. Then they go on to talk about Dancing with the Stars or American Idol. We are super duper fucked.
5 bjneb 2010-10-21
Oh yeah, remember when the U.N. said that drug money is what kept most of the banks that survived 2008 afloat, and that some $350 billion in drug money was laundered as a result? source
Liquidity indeed!
8 cojoco 2010-10-21
Just to present more evidence to support your assertions, let us look at the purported reasons for being in Afghanistan, and demolish them one by one:
3 ghibmmm 2010-10-21
You've got to remember that the military itself has its own profit motive, especially in countries with such large military production as the U.S.. Other than that, I'm inclined to agree with you.
2 cojoco 2010-10-21
I guess that's it's a bit hard to separate the US military from the government, but it was the Government which decided to enter this war, and to continue it.
6 bumblingmumbling 2010-10-21
You might want to read this.
-1 tupidflorapope 2010-10-21
Are you Salvador?
If so, please update your site. It's atrocious.
If not, please find another "source" of information. Spewing more propaganda to counter propaganda isn't helpful to anyone.
6 bumblingmumbling 2010-10-21
The quality of the information on the website is very good IMO. Jews call propaganda public relations.
"If I were a Jew, I would believe in the US Constitution and in the separation of church of state. As a result, I would not support the Jewish State of Israel, for it does not adhere to that principle. And I would petition the United States government to declare Israel an enemy nation rather than subsidizing it." Salvador Astucia
1 tupidflorapope 2010-10-21
Why, if the U.S. was instrumental in creating that nation state, would they turn on them and declare them an enemy, when they fight on the same side (for the most part, regardless of who has infiltrated who).
I agree there is quite a bit collusion between the two entities (US/IS), but only as long as the real powers in charge allow/make it. (hint, it's not zionists)
The US/IS are not in control of anything that is not allowed to be in their control...
And separation of church and state? As if there were such a thing. When was the last time a non christian was elected to the presidency?
6 DamHereComesThaMan 2010-10-21
There has to be someone who has served in the military who can tell me if this is real of just BS
13 [deleted] 2010-10-21
Its very real, there are at least 100 reports of US mil helping/guarding poppy-fields. Its a 6-7 Billion dollar industry. the cia reaper-drones are not cheap :|
1 BlowjobMillionaire 2010-10-21
Ex-Military here. Unless they're leaking documents from the Soviet era, it's unlikely. Abdul Rashid Dostum was a General who fought against the Soviets in the war. He is now allied with President Karzai; it's unlikely that they'd even contemplate doing anything to him. There are no records of him ever issuing a Fatwa, and the GPS coordinates are nowhere near civilization; it's on a mountain.
What's more, Dostum was in Mazar-i-Sharif in the Afghani Civil War back in '94, but it was a retreat. He hasn't been "based" out of there since 1996. He is now "based" out of Sheberghan.
So, no, I doubt this is real.
1 obamatheliar 2010-10-21
U.S. Marines Guard Afghanistan Poppy Fields
The army national guard even sent soldiers over there with farming skills to help the Afghans!
0 cojoco 2010-10-21
So what is GLP?
2 [deleted] 2010-10-21
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3 cojoco 2010-10-21
Isn't that site run by the CIA?
I guess that's why they banned the user, no?
6 newdailydouble 2010-10-21
Those numbers, at least the long ones are binary. So when i convert them to text: http://www.string-functions.com/hex-string.aspx
36342e313031393633 33322e353033323437
= 64.101963 32.503247 (gps co-ordinates)
when i plug em into g-maps first i got russia, but swapping them around, i get an afghanistan location. Osama anyone?
4 thetinystrawman 2010-10-21
What does the "AO" stand for?
8 Monty_Brogan 2010-10-21
Military lingo: Area of Operation.
5 thetinystrawman 2010-10-21
Thanks
4 newdog33 2010-10-21
During the Vietnam War heroin was smuggled into the US through Air America. Noriega of Panama smuggled drugs in the US with the help of US military for years. CIA was directly involved with getting crack cocaine on American streets. Afganistan is no different. Under the Taliban herion was nearly eradicated. Then once the Americans took over, it made a dramatic come back. The war on drugs has always been a scam. The DEA and CIA have used these opps as a way to finance themselves.
1 obamatheliar 2010-10-21
While giving the USA the highest incarceration rate in the industrialized world (higher than China!). Who does it benefit? The prison industrial complex, the police, the courts ... just about everyone except the buyer and seller of said drugs.
3 joseph177 2010-10-21
This is a crazy movie that tries to explain it..if you have an 1.5 hours: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1981225573970187433#
1 obamatheliar 2010-10-21
Do you know how many episodes of American Idol I could watch with that 1.5 hours instead. Hell, I'd even get 20 minutes of commercial advertisements in with the mind numbing TV show!
3 bumblingmumbling 2010-10-21
Has anyone read Opium Lords; Israel, the Golden Triangle and the Kennedy Assassination by Salvador Astucia? I guess it is now out of print. Synopsis
3 digger_ex_pat 2010-10-21
There's no mystery here. The illegal opium trade funds CIA black ops.
3 koonat 2010-10-21
Why do you think there's such a strong campaign against wikileaks?
Every day I see another article about how evil wikileaks is - or - how everything wikileaks says is government created disinfo.
Can't wait till we can decode that 'insurance'.
2 Beatle_Matt 2010-10-21
Opium can still be obtained in the US with a prescription.
4 dystopian 2010-10-21
...or you can just buy it on Ebay.
2 threefiveo125go 2010-10-21
Some insight from Cryptome
http://cryptome.org/0002/wikileaks-feint.htm
1 xandercruise 2010-10-21
cryptome is no longer a reliable source on wikileaks, john young has a massive chip on his shoulder and appears to be losing his mind.
1 threefiveo125go 2010-10-21
The more I dabble into this stuff, the weirder it gets.
I usually read Cryptogon (not cryptome). What other sites would you recommend?
2 xandercruise 2010-10-21
reddit is pretty much all you need :)
although I do read a lot of articles on this site:
http://globalresearch.ca/
2 coffinman82 2010-10-21
the CIA has been growing opium in afghanistan since 2001 and before. this isnt news..
2 quelar 2010-10-21
You mean the US Army is growing opium INSTEAD of the CIA this time.
2 MyMourningPenis 2010-10-21
Here is the ABC News Clip covering the U.S. Troops helping them grow the poppies by protecting them.
1 LynMarcus 2010-10-21
Are these supposed to be in the Afghan War Diary? If so, where are they at http://beta.diarydig.org?
1 accountt1234 2010-10-21
Can you confirm this is real? I can only find it on GLP.
EDIT: I looked through the documents myself. I can't find it. No hits in google for any parts of this either. It's fake.
0 pizzaburger 2010-10-21
noagendashow.com
11 _red 2010-10-21
Yes, and its all right out in the open.
No one cares though....
5 bjneb 2010-10-21
Oh yeah, remember when the U.N. said that drug money is what kept most of the banks that survived 2008 afloat, and that some $350 billion in drug money was laundered as a result? source
Liquidity indeed!
1 obamatheliar 2010-10-21
Do you know how many episodes of American Idol I could watch with that 1.5 hours instead. Hell, I'd even get 20 minutes of commercial advertisements in with the mind numbing TV show!