Yes I do. And here is why:

Authorities have a history of using agent provocateurs to create violence. Watch this video

Now watch this video where the Police actually ADMITTED that the "anarchists" were undercover cops posing as protesters.

The Prime Minister has already said that he will increase London's police force by 60%. He could never have gotten away with it before the "riots" because of the austerity measures and such. And so continues the inevitable march towards a militarized police state.

Also, it is good timing after the whole News of the World scandal that implicated David Cameron AND the police (the police were taking bribes from the newspaper). Now the police are heroes.

I first became suspicious when I kept on looking for so called "rioters" on the reports. I just saw handfuls of agent-provocateur types. There are no "riots".

Then people started asking why the police where not doing anything, just standing by and watching (I refer you to my video links above for an explanation of that behavior).

The "rioters" are probably being controlled by certain elements within the police force. I think the looters are mainly just regular people... opportunist criminals, chavs and the like, but the rioters seem way too coordinated and there seems to be no solid reason for this spontaneous action. Also, how can the government and media predict that the riots are going to spread to other cities?

I applaud you for asking this question. We need answers. We can NEVER assume that our leaders have our best interests at heart. They have broken the bond of trust far too many times for that.

Please treat all news reports with complete suspicion. Do not rely on the BBC.

Arab spring, Anglo summer?

Summer of blood.

I've asked a lot of questions of a lot of friends and I think the answer is NO.

I have family/friends that are right and left wing, rich and poor...scabbing off the government or drained by the government and they all think the same thing: The osterity measures taken by David Cameron and the economic situation have led to a whole bunch of bored poor people. As another commentor said on a different post: The rich pay the poor to not riot and ruin everything through entitlement programs and benefits. You take that away and you get a bunch of angry people that want to ruin everything. I believe that what you say above is possible, probable in fact...but maybe going a little too far in this case.

As another commentor said on a different post: The rich pay the poor to not riot

Well, yes, that's because the rich own everything, and the poor don't own anything.

However, a society like this seems to be a little unbalanced to me.

you don't have to be university educated to set up a twitter account and post. i think now days organizing a protest is as easy as throwing a party. if not easier, b/c if it turns into a riot the 'host' doesn't have to clean up afterwards.

It's not like smart phones are THAT much money. A lot of poor people have nice phones. Sound financial decisions may not be their strong point. I think it's pointless to attack them for what phones they use as a phone isn't a true signifier of wealth or opulence.

DAE not get bored of these posts for EVERY current event? You're in fucking /conspiracy/, it's like going to r/atheism and posting "DAE NOT BELIEVE IN GOD?"

I like how your list of possibilities doesn't involve 'Bored chavs looking for any excuse to kick off' too.

"It's the government's fault", "we're getting our tax back", "This is our bankers' bonus" - almost as if they have been briefed on how to justify such actions.

How come when these actions are made by rioters it's a ploy, but blaming bankers and police is standard business here? Let me ask you something - do you think the 'they' have posters in /conspiracy, designed to make all conspiracy thoerists look like idiots?

DAE not get bored of these posts for EVERY current event?

No, because each event is different, and it's worthwhile discussing the nuances of each case.

I like how your list of possibilities doesn't involve 'Bored chavs looking for any excuse to kick off' too.

DAE not get bored of reading the same thing on Reddit that the MSM is saying?

How come when these actions are made by rioters it's a ploy, but blaming bankers and police is standard business here?

Because it has been quite obvious that given a choice between supporting taxpayers, and supporting bankers, most governments around the world have chosen to support bankers.

No, because each event is different, and it's worthwhile discussing the nuances of each case.

Of course, just why does it have to be with such a self reinforcing smug question?

DAE not get bored of reading the same thing on Reddit that the MSM is saying?

Automatically discounting an opinion based on the fact it's from a news source (which is a part of your conspiracy) is complete bollocks. Come to England and have a word with a few of the local reprobates to see if it changes your mind. Did you see the video of the youths helping the attacked, bleeding child up off of the floor? just so they could rob shit out of his backpack? Do you think that's attributable to the kid's banking bonus? I don't think so. Bored charvers, lack of policing, following the crowd.

While I don't doubt the current situation is causing some tension in my generation, it isn't an excuse for the events going down here. How can 95% of the unemployed not rioting support that conclusion?.

Because it has been quite obvious that given a choice between supporting taxpayers, and supporting bankers, most governments around the world have chosen to support bankers.

Dodged the question, try again. How about between Bankers and youth rioting in the streets? pretty sure most people would pick Bankers.

Automatically discounting an opinion based on the fact it's from a news source (which is a part of your conspiracy) is complete bollocks.

I'm not discounting it; I just don't want to discuss it.

How can 95% of the unemployed not rioting support that conclusion?

What? You're saying that only 5% of them rioting means that there's no problem? That's just silly.

How about between Bankers and youth rioting in the streets? pretty sure most people would pick Bankers.

That's also silly.

I think the answer lies somewhere in the middle. The wealthy knew his would happen eventually. I think they are just turning up the heat little by little until they can find our boiling point.

Dude, read the first three words of your title.

It's deliberate as in the 'youth' that have been out robbing are co-ordinating it and know full well they're taking advantage of sporadic police coverage.

The people burning shit down are bored hoodlums who most likely don't have a job due to being a twat at school and a general unwillingness to work. (Or indeed are twats at school on their school holidays at the moment)

Sucks anyway. I've just seen a peek at tomorrows papers and a bloke's in critical condition in hospital after been beaten for confronting the thugs. I'm ashamed and sickened. :(

Well now, you just come across as BBC disinfo. If you really think this is all about school children being twats, you don't know the first thing about what is currently going on in the world with the money system and the centralisation of power in Europe.

For a start, the police have stepped back for three days to allow criminal damage to occur. They have more than enough resources to catch looters and rioters and there are national police operation contingency plans available at any time to effectively police such uprisings. But they haven't been used because the solution will undoubtedly be more legislated power given to the police. Probably more guns on the beat too.

The previous socialist government criminalised half the populace in its expansion of the state and in the process made a lot of cheap labour for the factories. Now those factories have outsourced to the East because the currency has devalued, the youth have nothing to do every day but deal and steal.

Well now, you just come across as BBC disinfo.

hahahaha, the conspiritard defense comes out.

If you really think this is all about school children being twats, you don't know the first thing about what is currently going on in the world with the money system and the centralisation of power in Europe.

You clearly know fuck all about English culture. Remember hearing about the 7 lads arrested for smashing someone over the head with a golf club, giving him a kicking and then stabbing him with the broken shaft? I suppose that can be attributed to the police not wanting to help.

For a start, the police have stepped back for three days to allow criminal damage to occur.

They haven't since yesterday. Many more police in London = little trouble overnight.

They have more than enough resources to catch looters and rioters and there are national police operation contingency plans available at any time to effectively police such uprisings.

No there isn't. Hence all the burning buildings. You tink the police could get away with doing fuck all while the entire country watches?

But they haven't been used because the solution will undoubtedly be more legislated power given to the police. Probably more guns on the beat too.

They're not using extra police as....... it would justify using extra police? Please - don't comment incoherently about something you know nothing of. If you think this will lead to more guns on the beat you're an idiot. Do you know gun culture in the UK?

The previous socialist government criminalised half the populace in its expansion of the state

Well at least we both hate labour.

in the process made a lot of cheap labour for the factories.

Numpties gon' numpt, when menial labour is all someone has to offer, factories are a godsend.

Now those factories have outsourced to the East because the currency has devalued, the youth have nothing to do every day but deal and steal.

Nope. These kids have nothing to do 'cos they didn't try in school (their fault) or a shitty upbringing (shared between them and parental figures).

Seriously, there's so many people commenting without a clue in threads about this topic - trying so so hard to pin this on the gubberment or something other than thuggery.

Do I think "they" have posters in r/conspiracy that make posters look like idiots? Yes. Yes I do.

I asked that as a genuine question - anything non-circumstantial (i.e. that can't be explained by someone's stupidity and naivety) that can back it up? I mean, some of the stuff here can be expected, the other lot seems to be stupid to even comprehend half of the time and I'd be interested in an explanation.

What are you doing on this subreddit? It is obviously not for you. You might enjoy /r/politics... probably more your cup of tea.

I hate that place too, full of the exact same attitudes and eagerness to swallow down hyperbole as in here. That's what I have a problem with.

I do like /conspiracy, or else why would I bother posting? I enjoy discussing current events and I've met a lot of nice people who i've had genuine debates with. I just don't enjoy 'disinformation' , circlejerk-ism and a disregard for logic, common sense and rationality. Doesn't matter whether it's coming from libertarians on /politics, right-leaning tossers in my government - community and on fox news / the sun etc, conspiracy theorists in here or religious people banging on about the latest salvation.

If i can save one person from falling into the self-reinforcing traps then it's worth it.

Plus, free speech and yada yada, would you really want to silence the opposition? that's pretty conspiratiorial of you.

The guy asked a question. A simple, obvious question that needed to be asked. He did not deserve a response such as the one you gave.

We do not need you to "Save" us from falling into "self-reinforcing traps".

If you want to argue with people, there is probably a subreddit for that.

A simple, obvious question that needed to be asked.

Generally, simple obvious questions shouldn't need to be asked. The title could just've easily been posted as "Is there any evidence to support the UK violence been planned?" if the OP was genuinely interested in discussion and analysis of this situation, Instead he chose to ask an obvious loaded question for reinforcement of his ideas without comprismising them via discussion alternative theories and evidence.

If you want to argue with people, there is probably a subreddit for that.

If you rephrase that to discuss instead of argue, then you're dead on - /conspiracy doesn't want to discuss theories that happen to go against the (alternative) grain.

We do not need you to "Save" us from falling into "self-reinforcing traps".

Nope, but there's plenty of gullible people around who deserve to have both sides of something presented to them before their mind is made up. As happens countless times. I think people call them 'sheeple' here.

I have a very hard time believing this all started because of the murder of a small time drug dealer. There has to be a bigger story here. Any reports of abnormally built rioters ie. undercover cops? Don't get me wrong, there is plenty to riot about, or at least thats my American perspective. But that doesn't seem to be what the London riots are about.

I think something is coordinating the violent uprisings we're seeing in numerous countries. What, I don't know. I don't think it's a single person, or a single group. I'm more inclined to suspect it is some kind of unrecognized group intelligence -- a kind of crowd mind or composite mind, or racial intelligence if you will.

well you could , on the other hand say that once these things start , its a chain reaction , usually when one rebellion begins a bunch follow , keep both eyes open.

Well, if this wasn't orchestrated from day zero, it's a gift from god the chavs for government: make the public forget about newspaper and police scandals, give police a chance to come out as savior in shining armor, and have the perfect excuse to have more control of electronic communication means as well as filling London with cops so the Olympics are glitch-free.

I don't doubt class inequality, hopelessness and racial stress of many of the young in England found in the first protests the perfect way to blow some steam. But of course, who knows just from where those mythical BB messages prodding mobs to riot and loot actually originated from. Again, it's tragic that an event born from what seems to be police incompetence will become an excuse to use the disenfranchised as scapegoats and bogeymen.

Definitely not planned but the MSM did take the opportunity to attack the internet since some of the rioters coordinated meet-ups and strategy using social networks.

Automatically discounting an opinion based on the fact it's from a news source (which is a part of your conspiracy) is complete bollocks.

I'm not discounting it; I just don't want to discuss it.

How can 95% of the unemployed not rioting support that conclusion?

What? You're saying that only 5% of them rioting means that there's no problem? That's just silly.

How about between Bankers and youth rioting in the streets? pretty sure most people would pick Bankers.

That's also silly.