Something is bothering me about the Nationwide Emergency Alert System Test on 11/9...
53 2011-11-04 by drexhex
I see on this page that "An End of Message (EOM) will be used to close the EAN (an Emergency Action Termination will NOT be used)."
However, I read on wikipedia and on the online Electronic Code of Federal Regulations that "Normal programming cannot resume until the transmission of an Emergency Action Termination message (SAME code: EAT)."
and "Upon receipt of the Emergency Action Termination, the common carriers shall disconnect the originating source and the participating independent stations and restore the networks and other EAS Participants to their original configurations."
I also read that "[after transmitting the EOM], key EAS and Participating National sources must transmit a common emergency message until receipt of the Emergency Action Termination Message."
Does this mean that the test is not going to end, since an "Emergency Action Termination will NOT be used"?
If so, what is the "common emergency message" being transmitted during the test?
EDIT to add: Here is the EAS handbook given to broadcast companies - it says the same thing! EAS activation, EAN notification, then EOM transmitted, and finally the EAT terminates the EAS. http://www.wpr.org/eas/DOC-278628A3.pdf
EDIT 2: Here is the EAS handbook specifically for the Nationwide test. They're leaving it up to each broadcast station to supply their own visual cues that it is only a test, but the audio will specify that it's a test. It also says no EAT will be transmitted. If this was a real test of the system in place, why wouldn't they follow the same procedures as a real emergency?
70 comments
23 pwaclo 2011-11-04
This is the tiger asking "Hey, let's see if your head fits in my mouth. OK, cool. Just checking.... have a nice day"
8 VanillaPudding 2011-11-04
I would snicker at that if it wasn't true.
18 9000sins 2011-11-04
Sounds unlikely. The paranoid side of me wants to give this some credibility, but probably not. I am distressed though that the emergency management division of the federal government is preparing for martial law by ensuring they can disable all communications. This is a real wake up call America. If a tree falls in the woods, does it make a sound? Not if we disable it's cellphone and Internet.
6 drexhex 2011-11-04
Read the EAS Handbook here - it says the same thing. End Of Message does NOT mean the Termination of the Emergency Alert System!
5 BCLaraby 2011-11-04
I actually wrote a book about this - What happens to life in America after the US gov shuts off the internet for the country. Pretty grim shit.
ebook http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/34527
Printed http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/404/16675225
0 Bazoonga 2011-11-04
Just bought this book... First couple of chapters into it and can't put it down... Thanks for the link!
1 BCLaraby 2011-11-04
Cool! Did you buy the ebook? How far are you now?
4 [deleted] 2011-11-04
I'd suggest getting a HAM radio license. Everyone in our house has one for emergencies.
13 ImJulianAssange 2011-11-04
This is a TEST of the emergency alert system NOT an emergency alert and NOT an emergency notification. So the MESSAGE ends when the test is over. There is no Emergency Action Termination because there is NO emergency action.
Even I could figure this out. Save your paranoia for the aliens or illuminati.
7 [deleted] 2011-11-04
Wasn't it a NORAD DRILL on 9/11? Wasn't it a police DRILL on 7/7? What does the phrase hidden in plain sight mean to you? The wide majority of the public is not even aware of this TEST.
2 wekulm 2011-11-04
I just got an e-mail about it from my neighborhood association so that everyone would not be freaked out and asking that the message be spread.
2 syuk 2011-11-04
Time to get your zombie costume ready :)
1 ImJulianAssange 2011-11-04
Yes, but they did not go out of their way to inform everybody that they were having those tests. Those tests were designed to fool the participants, whose compliance was necessary, into believing that they were simulating what was actually happening. This test is being widely publicized. They are telling people NOT to act like they would if it was a real notification of a real emergency.
To me, the phrase hidden in plain sight means that something that was important escaped our notice because we assumed it was unimportant. This is neither unimportant nor escaping our notice.
5 drexhex 2011-11-04
"An Emergency Action Notification (EAN) live-code will be used for the Test." source: fema.gov
5 ImJulianAssange 2011-11-04
This is a test of the emergency notification system. This is a TEST. It is being announced ahead of time when it will start and when it will end. They are telling us that it is NOT an Emergency Action Notification because there is no emergency.
Alternatively: While communications are suspended the attack on Iran will commence. Destruction will rain down on Israel from Iran and all of Israel's neighbors in retaliation. The conflagration will spread to include the US, Russia, NATO and China. That scenario will play out exactly like that movie in your head. You and some beautiful woman you are forced to befriend will somehow survive and a new world order will finally become possible.
9 BadThoughtProcess 2011-11-04
"ImJulianAssange wins... Fatality."
5 distortednet 2011-11-04
This guy. love this guy. You know its borderline batshit insane when he shows up and goes "yea, that's not true, guys"
2 SovereignMan 2011-11-04
Oops. We screwed up and can't end it. Hardware or software failure. We'll fix it as soon as we can. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Actually, I've been looking for any reference as to when it will end and have found nothing. Have you?
1 ImJulianAssange 2011-11-04
I have looked and I did not find any reference to the duration of the test. However, the suggestion that the test will last forever or indefinitely does not take into account the fact that the media is not the enemy of the government. This test is to improve the ability of the government to control the population.
1 schust49 2011-11-04
i saw two reports one saying 30 seconds and another saying from 2-4 for everywhere but dc. dc was undetermined. if i find the link again ill post it. i also have found a note from comcast suggesting it will be three minuets long here is the link http://modernsurvivalblog.com/current-events-economics-politics/beware-11-9-11-first-time-ever-for/
1 SovereignMan 2011-11-04
Thanks.
1 ImJulianAssange 2011-11-04
The FCC and FEMA announced that what had once been billed as a three-minute (or thereabouts) test would in fact last only 30 seconds (or thereabouts).
1 SovereignMan 2011-11-04
Thanks.
2 [deleted] 2011-11-04
While we don't want to instigate panic. We should be ever vigilant.
I hope your mockery doesn't come back to haunt you.
1 ImJulianAssange 2011-11-04
I think that international corporations are bent on globalism. One aspect of globalism is one world government. Another is culling the herd. I think there are tribalists who, in cooperation with these idea, want to kill as many people outside their tribe as possible. I think the Americans have been complicit with this endless war scenario. I am constantly trying to make people aware of what is going on in their name. Sometimes I use shock, sometime empathy, sometimes mockery. The point is the FEMA test is to strengthen its authority and control NOT to tip us off that they are going to take control. It is ordinary people doing ordinary things (without thinking of the implications or unintended outcomes) that have got us into the mess we are in and we need to understand what they are doing and why so we can correct them and get them to work with us to turn things around. Comic book or action movie scenarios are implanted in our minds so that we cannot easily distinguish between fantasy and reality. I am here to help draw the line.
3 9000sins 2011-11-04
This is a test that in case of an emergency that you CANNOT call for help.
12 Pro-Am 2011-11-04
I just spent 90 minutes on a call regarding this mess of a test. Trust me, this thing is so disorganized, I'd be surprised if anybody even sees the test. No conspiracy here...Normally the EOM is simply used by the EAS gear to indicate when the alert message has concluded, and for the equipment to return to normal operation. The logic for this national test is as follows: For something to happen that would call for a "National EAN alert", it would have to be a major event, right? Well, the EAN alert simply force tunes your television to a channel that will carry the actually carry the content of the alert (video and audio). This channel will be a local affiliate broadcaster (ABC, NBC, FOX, CBS, PBS). Normally, at the conclusion of an EAN, and end of message indicator would cause the television to tune back to whatever you were watching prior to the alert. But because such a national event would normally be very serious, you'd want to make sure people keep their eyes and ears on the news. Thus, no end-of-message indicator means no automatically tuning back to Young and the Restless or Jersey Shore or whatever. If you choose to change the channel back, you can simply by doing it yourself.
An emergency alert message is just a message. Just because the message doesn't "end", there isn't an emergency of infinite length.
6 distortednet 2011-11-04
heh, the EAS channel on my tv is used for my wii.
Emergency mario party, fuck yea!
2 Imidazole0 2011-11-04
Thank you, kind sir.
EDIT: or ma'am.
1 drexhex 2011-11-04
Thanks.
9 [deleted] 2011-11-04
I honestly think you might be right. I also think that it's possible that we attack Iran on the ninth. Which could lead to WW3, an extinction level event with a notable impact of November. Obama clearly had a defined reason for those 20K troops here at home. Plus, with all the war cries going off right now, it seems possible.
5 sunshine-x 2011-11-04
I wonder about the "Operation Mountain Guardian" (OMG) exercise from a few weeks ago.. An exercise where top military, NASA, and gov brass were all in Denver, where the military was guarding them while they were bunkered, etc.
Seems to me, they were rehearsing a drill where an ELE was occurring.. say YU55 for example, which is not believed to be a danger to the earth, but who knows. Maybe it is. Or, maybe WW3 is coming, or maybe they know that given financial collapse, there'll be a hell of a lot of hungry americans wanting answers and food, so maybe they're going to hide out in the mountains till the common folk are no longer a danger.
Anyhow, my point is OMG was an exercise to protect the underground facilities in the mountains. Who are they protecting them from? The american people, that's who. Why? No idea.
4 EyesfurtherUp 2011-11-04
or it is to keep the populace in a constant state of fear.
0 Pfmohr2 2011-11-04
[citation needed]
8 [deleted] 2011-11-04
Just pointing out that WW3 has the possibility of ending all life on the planet if it got really out of hand. Even so, an E.L.E. is simply a period of time when diversity of life decreases extensively. With the tactical nuclear, spent uranium, biological, and conventional weapons at the world's disposal, it is not unlikely that many species could cease to exist while human beings survive.
2 Byahhhhh 2011-11-04
Look up Lake Toba Catastrophe Theory on Wiki, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory
I say we're due for some type of mass extinction event soon, should be exciting, I'll have my lawn chair ready to watch.
1 Sparks127 2011-11-04
I hope it isn't near here
3 [deleted] 2011-11-04
yu55 is a possible, though not highly probable. The navy has run exercises to deal with a tsunami caused by an object as large as yu55 recently. Coincidence? You be the judge.
1 distortednet 2011-11-04
it is also only considered a locally catastrophic event, and there is tons of data to back that up. it'll probally only effect a 30-60 mile radius if it did hit, everything else would be fine. Same if it hit the moon, nothing catastrophic would come of it.
1 TheyreNotRocks 2011-11-04
Phrase sounded familiar... Apparently, Busta Rhymes can shed some light on this.
7 EyesfurtherUp 2011-11-04
"Normal programming cannot resume until the transmission of an Emergency Action Termination message" says it all; doesn't it.
4 pickengrin 2011-11-04
Good question. Nice post...I wish I had something better to add/say but I'll be looking forward to seeing the responses.
3 schust49 2011-11-04
I think that it sounds unlikely, but to play devils advocate I found an article that stated "sraeli media on Wednesday (2 November) reported that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is trying to persuade his cabinet to launch an air strike on Iran. The move could come shortly after the 8th of November, when the Vienna-based nuclear watchdog, the IAEA, publishes its latest report on Iran, Israeli daily Haaretz said" since it would be rumored that Israeli, the USA and Britain would be going after Iran I found the timing of of the test and the date mentioned by Israel highly suspicious. {source http://euobserver.com/13/114139 found article in r/politics}
3 krugmanisapuppet 2011-11-04
try to keep your head.
1 drexhex 2011-11-04
true story
3 simbrono 2011-11-04
I work as a radio programmer and I can assure you that this test is well organised and I have known about it for a long time. However the conspiracy side of me finds the timing pretty crazy with the YU55 asteroid passing around the same time.
2 digger_ex_pat 2011-11-04
Permanent and stealth take over of all broad casts?
2 [deleted] 2011-11-04
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3 MustangGuy 2011-11-04
Hmm, Skyrim does release that day...
1 distortednet 2011-11-04
you beat me to it...
minecraft also goes official too.
i think we are on to something here.
1 digger_ex_pat 2011-11-04
Asteroid near miss on the 8th
2 [deleted] 2011-11-04
Theory I read somewhere (can't remember where): E.L.E. YU55 will collide with debris from Elenin's tail and it will be thrown off course and forced towards to crash with the Earth. (Near the Mediterranean).
Not backing this theory. Not my personal opinion just putting it out there.
Personal opinion: Whenever there's drills or tests i.e. 9/11 NORAD - 7/7 police ; real emergencies or catastrophes tend to happen.
2 MistaTwizzle 2011-11-04
Regarding the theory - Sounds like it's been thrown together with no basis in science. How on Earth would anybody know that it would hit in the mediterranean specificaly? Nasa couldn't even figure out where that satellite was going to land last month.
1 [deleted] 2011-11-04
Apparently. People that have debunked this say that the tail of Elenin is actualy composed of particles "thinner" that the smoke of a cigarrete. However the proponents of this theory claim otherwise, they say that there's some pretty big chunks of rock and ice in the tail. Again. I don't back the theory or it is my opinion that this scenario will present itself.
I really don't trust NASA. I think they lie just as much as they tell the truth. But that's another story.
My final point: I think the situation is propense to create a lot of confusion on 11/9 and I do believe that dates are important. 11/9 and 11/11 are two dates in which I really believe planned historic events will happen.
1 MistaTwizzle 2011-11-04
I personally think the debunkers are spot on in this case, but I have no issue with your own personal opinion.
2 ThumperNM 2011-11-04
If so we can only hope it hits D.C.
1 drexhex 2011-11-04
sounds like GLP
1 GenericDouchebag 2011-11-04
I think it's more just terminology being mixed up. I can understand the concern, but in the event of an actual national emergency, do we really want the govt to NOT be capable of doing this?
5 GenericDouchebag 2011-11-04
Lol. Knew I'd get downvoted even though it was a logical question. Stay classy, reddit.
0 Byahhhhh 2011-11-04
well you are a douchebag ;) P.S. I upvoted ya, but why not test sooner like last week, or year, or ten years ago!
3 drexhex 2011-11-04
Read the fema.gov link, where it says in capital letters that the EAT will "NOT" be used.
Then read the EAS handbook.
2 VanillaPudding 2011-11-04
I heard some local radio talk show people refering to this test recently... about it being a new system that was just put in place. They were talking about how this was the first test of it and they were talking about all the new hardware they had to put in place for it to work.
With that being said i wonder if the terminology or the triggers themselves are different with this setup...?
2 drexhex 2011-11-04
I'm linking directly to the policies... this is the first time a National test is being conducted, so it's understandable that they might have had to install equipment to comply with regulations, but since the EAS handbook I posted includes directions for National tests, I don't think the terminology or the triggers are different.
There is going to be an Emergency Alert Notification, and an End of Message sent to the broadcasters. However, in order to return to normal broadcasting, an Emergency Alert Termination signal must be sent according to the same regulations. FEMA says this EAT signal will not be sent.
Who knows =\
3 VanillaPudding 2011-11-04
we all will come Wednesday :D
1 cockyjeremy 2011-11-04
November 9th? MW3 comes out on the 8th. I'll never see this.
0 chiindustry 2011-11-04
Mech Warrior 3?
1 bashGOPgetkarma 2011-11-04
Does this effect HAM Radio as well?
1 husla3x 2011-11-04
f it was an actual emergency I would care less about a ham radio licence, I would ham it up anyway. I mean no goverment, no penalty, no crime. Airtight?
1 husla3x 2011-11-04
Forced DTV..... Now this. Alone these things seem like signs of the times but together its starting to become a bit interesting. Guess I am becoming a foil head, at least listening in on a few of the meetings.
1 TrollKat-y 2011-11-04
They want us to remain in the alert for impending messages. The message will not be terminated because that's not all.
-1 EyesfurtherUp 2011-11-04
last week nickelodeon west coast had an emergency test scroll during dora (L.A. area)