Question and possible theory surrounding Hitler and the Jews.
0 2012-08-11 by Throwawayconspiracis
First off, YES, this is a throwaway account. I actually post here regularly, but seeing as this question will probably get blasted by SRS , I don't want my other account involved.
I was watching the movie Romper Stomper the other day and it started me thinking about Hitler and his obsession with trying to annihilate the Jews. Then I got to thinking about the Jews role in today's world and how they have taken over MSM, hollywood, and trying to take over the world basically.
So I started putting two and two together and it got me wondering if Hitler could have possibly foreseen what was to come. I have heard that he was very deep into mysticism and the occult and I wonder if maybe he was given a vision of what they would do.
Let me be straight with you, i in no way support Nazi agenda. but i am curious to know if maybe Hitler was not only trying to be all powerful, but also trying to protect the world from someone who will take the world over in secret.
53 comments
3 RawbHaze 2012-08-11
Get this bullshit out of here.
3 [deleted] 2012-08-11
Remember, Hitler was a Rothschild.
He wasn't trying to annihilate Jews... just getting rid of competition for his masters.
1 hb_alien 2012-08-11
I am wondering how you came to this conclusion.
1 herpaderp2026 2012-08-11
Dunno how rooted in truth it is; but it's an interesting theory, nonetheless. Fuck all the DV's.
1 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
i have a theory that you have two grandmothers, and over 43 possible grandfathers.
-1 herpaderp2026 2012-08-11
Your last post makes me question the chastity of your mother. I have a theory that if she had as many sticking out of her as she's had stuck in her she'd be a dick porcupine.
0 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
Good one. Now tie it in with your jewhate!
1 herpaderp2026 2012-08-11
"Oh, he must be an anti-semite because he agrees(Even though I never said that I do)."
If I critique Obama, does that mean I am racist as well? I wonder what your logical fallacy of the day is.........?
-1 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
Are you really talking about logic while defending this specific post?
1 herpaderp2026 2012-08-11
Are you really trying to argue your point after insulting everyone that doesn't agree? After making a bunch of ad homs? GFY, dude.
-1 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
Doesn't agree with what? That this is one of the most ridiculous and hateful posts imaginable? THIS IS SAYING THAT HITLER MIGHT HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN A HERO FOR TRYING TO PREVENT THE FUTURE WORLD FROM GETTING TAKEN OVER BY THE EVIL JEWS BY STARVING, GASSING, SHOOTING, BURNING, AND EXPERIMENTATION. What is the alternate interpretation of OP's "theory"?
1 herpaderp2026 2012-08-11
You interpret it that way. I don't. Dude even said he doesn't agree with the ideology. Again dude; GFY.
-1 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
OK. That's like saying "Slavery is wrong, but black people should be thankful it happened because they're better off in America right now."
Not offensive at all, right?
1 herpaderp2026 2012-08-11
Like I said man, go fuck yourself with that shit. I'm done arguing with close minded morons that make zero sense, only knee jerk reactions to a THEORY of all things. TTYL!
-1 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
Yup! It's been real.
1 herpaderp2026 2012-08-11
Yeah; real shitty.
-1 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
Nice semicolon.
1 herpaderp2026 2012-08-11
Ah, the "I don't have a leg to stand on but by God! I'll call out his typo's!" routine. The first post usually made by a troll after being made to look stupid. /youlose
-1 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
typos.
Plurals don't have apostrophes.
3 herpaderp2026 2012-08-11
Yes, yes. We know you're a loser that spell checks and finds typo's(HAHA! You're(!) rebuke changed NOTHING! HAHA!) when he doesn't get any love in a forum. You don't need to confirm it any further.
-1 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
You did a nice job with this one. The only error was an intentional one, so there is definite progress. I'm proud of you! Here's an upvote for your improvement...
2 herpaderp2026 2012-08-11
Thanks for the karma! You get a down vote for being a condescending ass that whines and cries when people don't agree with him. Well, I gotta hit the road. Your mother isn't going to fuck herself. See ya later!
-1 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
Wow. You're improving by the comment. Really nice work!
1 herpaderp2026 2012-08-11
Dude! Chill the fuck out! Do you know how hard it is to fuck your mother when my phone keeps going off like this all the time? Sheesh! Give a man a second, will ya?
-1 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
Good one, BoBo!
1 herpaderp2026 2012-08-11
Refreshing! Your mother's vagina, that is. I saw the stain the best part of you made after rolling down the crack of her ass. Compelling stuff, to say the least. Very insightful.
0 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
Good one, again!
1 herpaderp2026 2012-08-11
Thanks! It's always nice when someone tries to discredit me but then gives me a compliment.
0 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
Any time. As long as you have a reason to feel good about yourself, I'm happy for you!
1 herpaderp2026 2012-08-11
Yep! And you are that reason! Thanks again for that! How does it feel to know that I (Someone you dislike) derive pleasure from you?
0 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
Great! Just like my ex-GFs.
1 herpaderp2026 2012-08-11
You don't have to lie about stuff.
1 hb_alien 2012-08-11
This is one of the dumbest things I've seen on here, and that's saying something.
-1 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
Wow. The anti-semitism here used to be thinly-veiled as anti-Zionism. I guess we're done with that.
How often are Caucasians or Christians slandered here? Rarely.
You should put two and two together, build a time machine, and fuck your father's face when he was in 4th grade.
3 iamafriscogiant 2012-08-11
Discussion is not anti-semitism. Know what is anti-semitism? The atrocities Israel is committing against Palestine.
0 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
I agree with this. Except the first sentence. To consider this post as a theory even remotely worth discussing is fucked up and revealing.
2 iamafriscogiant 2012-08-11
Not necessarily. You can't gather OP's actual intentions with what he wrote. There are numerous instances where it could be completely innocent conjecture. Posing questions, any questions, is not an admission of guilt, it's a search for answers. It very well could be the case if people were able to discredit the theory, OP would discount it completely. In fact it appears that may be the case here considering what he wrote.
0 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
It is a theory completely and utterly impossible to prove or disprove, with zero factual basis, so I'm not seeing how any meaningful discussion is possible. It is akin to arguing that slavery was a good thing, or any instance of genocide might be for the greater good. Or maybe that the people who are really in control of Israel have some info from a magical source that the Palestinians will destroy us all, and are currently treating them like shit so they could be stopped. You don't see how that could be extremely offensive to some people, if not most?
2 iamafriscogiant 2012-08-11
You're jumping to weird conclusions, probably based on your own biases. There does not need to be meaningful discussion in order for the theory to be discredited, in fact stating the discussion is ridiculous might be enough for OP to disregard it. You're coming at this as if all things are equal. As if OP's brain works the same way as yours. He could be 12 and just learning about critical thinking. He could be high as shit and just postulating stupid what ifs that he'll be embarrassed about later. Or he could be a racist asshole, as well as a number of other things. None of these can be gathered by a few questions being posed.
This idea that anything that can be remotely considered critical of Jews or Israel should be considered anti-semitism, is in fact perpetrated by the the ones most egregiously guilty of the concept.
0 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
Criticizing Israel is not anti-semitic, and I never have and never will defend that country. Criticizing "Jews" as a general group, without recognizing individual or small, factional perpetrators, is almost the definition of anti-semitism. There seems to be little confusion in this sub regarding the difference between Jihadists and Muslims, or Christian-based hate groups like Westboro or the Klan and Christians in general, but Jews, Zionists, and the country of Israel are all treated as interchangeable here.
1 iamafriscogiant 2012-08-11
In who's eyes though? Certainly everyone is guilty of over generalizing in speech or writing, but it can usually be attributed to laziness or maybe to intentionally make the listener question their own responsibility if there is any. I might often use the term we when talking to people about the atrocities the US government is committing overseas but nobody is dense enough to think I'm literally saying each and every US citizen is personally responsible for said atrocities. Why should there be a different standard for anyone?
1 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
So you don't think this is problematic?
http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/y1ktb/israel_is_paying_internet_workers_to_manipulate/c5rhwa8
Or this?
http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/y1ktb/israel_is_paying_internet_workers_to_manipulate/c5rkugq
Read that whole thread, check the number of upvotes on the more fucked up comments, and notice how a valid post about Zionists morphed into an attack on Jews. It is a VERY different standard. Am I imagining all this?
1 iamafriscogiant 2012-08-11
What exactly are you arguing here? That there's anti-Semitic assholes in this subreddit? I'm not disagreeing. All I'm saying is being critical of Jews does not automatically equal hatred for all Jews. Certainly we can both come up with examples agreeing with this, if you can't you've just shown your true colors.
1 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
I'm arguing that if there are a small but vocal group of anti-Semites in this sub, than the overwhelming majority here seems more than ok with their presence and "contributions". Being critical of specific Jews is perfectly fine, and often justified. Being critical of Jews as a people or race, implying that they are all a certain way, with some exceptions, is as fucked up as criticizing Whites, Christians, Muslims, Blacks, Asians, etc. Please search this sub for posts with the words "Zionists" and "Vatican" in them. Similarly accusatory posts appear for both. Now search "Jewish" and "Christian". Those are night and day. Are they not analogous?
1 iamafriscogiant 2012-08-11
Again, what exactly are you arguing here? You're jumping from talking about whether OP's post is anti-Semitic to arguing there are many people here with a Jew hating bias. That's a straw man.
1 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
That's not a jump. It's a hop.
If I'm arguing anything, it's that there is a strong swell of anti-semitism (grouped with, yet very different from anti-Zionism) in this sub that should not be condoned. And it seems like anyone who is not okay with that is labeled a hired Jew shill.
1 iamafriscogiant 2012-08-11
I think being liberal with your anti-Semite name-calling will deservedly get you labelled that since it's their modus operandi.
1 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
Ok boss. If you say so.
2 iamafriscogiant 2012-08-11
I was somewhat overly straightforward with that last comment and I feel you deserve more. People have been socially conditioned to perceive things as anti-semitism whenever anything pertaining to Israel is criticized or questioned. This was conscious and intentional. We're seeing similar conditioning happen with stuff pertaining to the US government. So in essence, one might be shilling for the another group without it being a conscious choice. It's a psychological tactic that works very well, and one we should look out for.
1 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
That's fair. At the same time, we should also be aware of sources' motives. If you check the other videos posted by the guy who uploaded the "Jews changing Wikipedia" video, it is clear that he is a holocaust denier and nazi defender, and his main purpose was not to promote truth, but spread hate. I'm not saying that the person who brought it to reddit had a similar agenda or that the post doesn't belong here, but that the line between Zionism and Judaism is being intentionally blurred by a small handful of people here, and everyone seems ok with it.
2 oopsifarted 2012-08-11
For connecting some dots? A bit harsh i'd say. If he does get the time machine I suggest your 4th grade father be the one to take the face fucking.
-1 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
Connecting some dots? Are you fucking stupid? Hitler knew the Jews were evil and going to try and take over the world, so he tried to kill them all, for the good of future mankind???
0 oopsifarted 2012-08-11
You didn't know?
1 herpaderp2026 2012-08-11
You don't have to lie about stuff.
1 cesarjulius 2012-08-11
That's not a jump. It's a hop.
If I'm arguing anything, it's that there is a strong swell of anti-semitism (grouped with, yet very different from anti-Zionism) in this sub that should not be condoned. And it seems like anyone who is not okay with that is labeled a hired Jew shill.