You must either be new here or visiting. The game is rigged, man. Your vote doesn't do anything except make the sleepers think they're free.

Also, the lesser of two evils is still evil. I don't know about you, but I refuse to accept evil, no matter the amount.

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It will not happen by the rigged political show that's been running the last hundreds of years, that's for sure, two sides of a dialect to fool you every time, vote every 4 years to avoid the scary riots that would occur if there were not votes that often. It's a two headed dialect controlled by the same body, two heads on the same beast. Well the beast is still a beast and the only way to win over it is to kill it. If it bleeds, it can die.

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The first step is to NOT vote for the lesser of two evils just because you feel your only choices are evil and more evil. If everyone chose that route, neither evil would win. If everyone continues with voting for who they feel the lesser evil is, there's always going to be evil.

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You're right but at least it's a step in the right direction. Unlike your original suggestion to just continue with the lesser of two evils.

Revolution and throw out the economy and all corporations, of course not going to happen with all the wishful thinking and new hope every 4th year.

That's the question. I've pretty much accepted the fact that bad shit is coming. I'm hunkering down and waiting it out. Everybody is too afraid or ignorant of the situation we're in.

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This is wishful thinking. The president doesn't work for you. How many times to we have to go over this?

DON'T BELIEVE THE FALSE LEFT-RIGHT PARADIGM

If you want change, put some people in power that don't work for the corporations.

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We've seen the system manipulated by the politicians to stop real change, the RNC is a great example. We need to get the population involved. Right now half of the population thinks the other half is the problem, this is how partisan politics distracts people. When they understand the false paradigm, then they will demand real change.

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Who said anything about waiting?

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All we have to do is provide this information. It is their burden to keep up the big lie every day. Not everybody has to believe the information, but when enough believe so that it's regarded as an ideology instead of lunacy will we see some results.

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You're a sitting duck no matter what, the American people live in fear of their government now. The best thing we can do is point them towards the information and capitalize on their mistakes.

LOL, To beat anything you must do the opposite, never the same.

If everyone quit their jobs on the same day, the world changes the next day.

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Well yes, if you have a larger fire than the one you want to extinguish you can do that. However, I would point out that while your attempt to insult my understanding of business and war might make you think you know more, what you are saying does not add up.

Contextually, that is what the (NWO) or a world government is. A larger version that will extinguish national sovereignty. I assure you when talking distributing power I do not a larger form of this beast.

My point is that you must remove the fuel to extinguish it.

Will you take back the insult? I don't think I deserve it. You may disagree with me, but to say that I don't understand it is not true.

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Cheers.

Their control goes as far as we (the supposedly controlled) are willing to do their work for them.

This is why I advocate non labor. Sitting out. Forfeiting.

They do not actually control people. People willfully join them and offer their mind, bodies and essentially souls to the "job creators" as if they are deities. This paradigm has run a muck. We do not need job creators, we need food and shelter. We don't even need healthcare, we will get sick and better and sick and better and then one day we will all die. The people who are sicker earlier and more frequently will die sooner.

Fucking instead, we have Dick Cheany. This asshole is so fucking sick and disgusting that he appoints himself VP while heading the committee to select a VP. Takes control of the military on the morning of 9/11. Hires his own company to privatize war and the infrastructure to support it. .... and today is walking this earth with a machine running his heart.

Meanwhile the cost of healthcare is up to like 5x more expensive than any other nation and NOW is time to nationalize healthcare? FUCK HEALTHCARE. They kill more people than any other industry. Currently the opiate epidemic in this country is sickening. Medicare Prescription drug coverage and a monopoly on opium in Afghanistan is manifesting itself in children dying from overdoses, more people checking into rehab for opiates than alcohol. The way out that is offered is through chemicals that are more addictive than the original addiction to a mild opiate. Not only that, but shamanistic drugs like DMT, Ibgoaine, Mushrooms, LSD etc, that can be used to induce a spiritual experience helpful in recovering from "states of possession" like a crippling drug addiction are illegal and heavily prosecuted.

Poor people don't have fake hearts, rich powerful scumbags do. We do not need the kind of healthcare that we are being taxed for now.

WTF is happening and why are people raving about freedom?

Sorry to rant in your thread man, I am allowing my thoughts to flow out freely on purpose so I can get them later for some other writing things I am working on. I appreciate the opportunity to engage in dialogue about these things.

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Are sure Obama isn't just a better actor?

Actually unless you know the issues do not vote at all.

A OR B A OR B A OR B A OR B

Slaves or Serfs Slaves or Serfs Slaves or Serfs Slaves or Serfs

Vote with your life. Stop participating in your own enslavement. Quit your job and return to your natural state of being.

Full employment is the mandate of the Federal Reserve. Zero employment is the mandate of the soul. It does not take 65 years does not have to be called retirement. You do not have to wait for permission from your master. You can just go and be free, and if you are good to people, you will be taken care of with daily bread.

When your labor is more powerful than their currency, you will have the upper hand in negotiations. Or: "when the power of love is greater than the love of power the world will know peace"

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I worked for many years. Then had this idea. Now I have not worked sine 11/16/09.

Impractical is supporting a slave master. Supporting a slave master serves no real benefit or purpose.

Make things and barter them. Share ideas, help people, ask for help when you need it, offer help whenever you can.

Think about it.

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I wish I could honestly agree with you. People who work to gain power do not relinquish it willingly. The middle class is now too small to have this kind of power. The power elites are too powerful and spending too many resources to crush dissent and grow more powerful to willingly do the right thing.

One of the BIG things that Americans will be voting for is if this country will be complicit in the bombing and killing of innocent and peaceful Iranian citizens.

Obama, judging by past actions, mostly does not let the insane Israeli Likud government push him about (very much).

Mittens, on the other hand, has already promised the Zionists a war and, indeed, they have already paid him for it in the form of millions of dollars of campaign contributions.

It's easy--if you want to support Israeli terrorism, Romney's your guy.

Other than that they're almost the same damn "candidate."

Vote third party and change the system. Stop thinking short term impacts and think long term.

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Voting 3rd party doesn't change ANYTHING is the long run.

Care to show what makes you know this?

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That's not what the long run means though..

Voting third party might open people's eyes to new candidates, new parties, new everything...in the long run.

This movement is something that needs to happen now as it could take decades to fix, but needs to be about doing something bigger than us and bigger than right now.

On the contrary if you do not know the issues you should not be voting!

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Dear stoned_reddit_alien,

I have read the post and all I see is someone saying that you should vote Obama because you can't trust Romney without ever giving any bit of proof.

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I can see how you may have read my comment in that context and I'm sorry for any misunderstanding it may have provoked. as well i do plan on reading through through some of the comments as well has the many hyperlinks that have been posted. It is my belief that there are to many people in this country who vote with the crowd before ever looking up any bit of information on who they are voting for that is why I posted this comment not to argue or to even disagree with your beliefs but simply in the hope that someone will see and research these things for themselves the way you obviously have, and for that I applaud you.

Yes; it's clear from the last 4 years that lesser-evil is not also part of that conspiracy. Because of the republicans, a full presidential term wasn't enough time for any hope or change at all; but I'm certain another 4 would give him the time he needs to make the slightest effort to do anything but continue and expand the policies of his greater-evil predecessor.

Vote - but vote for my guy!

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This is akin to sayin:

I am voting for fear, not faith. But I am full of faith because I am voting.

"Look I got a sticker to prove it. Let's have a beer and talk about how free we are to the other sticker bearing humans."

Sorry to troll your comments ITT, but you are kind of calling out for this kind of honesty from what I can tell.

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Man, you are very close. But you have to know that people believe big lies. The lies are so big they are unbelievable.

It would be a blessing if it were only congress, only senate, only executive, only judicial, but once you start to look really really closely, you too will see it is the whole damn lot that is lying. Every congressman, every president, every supreme court justice etc is a member of one society or another. The news is predetermined based on the agreements between these small groups.

The mainstream media will never ever mention these groups, but will mention things that allow you to connect dots. This is not intentional, it is because they are arrogant and think you are too stupid to realize when John Roberts goes to Malta after the affordable care act ruling, that its not a vacation but an obligation he has to the Knights of the Maltese Cross. I bet he got to wear a funny hat and had a new funny title like "supreme ultra master of grand poobahs in the realm of fairie justice" once he got there.

I used to think people like me were batshit crazy, some of them are. Supporting slave masters and the agendas of societies that you do not get to participate in is way more batshit crazy than getting a few secrets wrong in an attempt to tell the truth from the lies of a bunch of weirdos.

The whole damn thing is fucking weird. Mirak Obamney is not going to help you. Any movement that tries to rise and play in their game of control will be co-opted or destroyed. Tea Party: Co-opted, OWS: Co-opted. All the people who will not be co-opted in the movement will be labeled terrorists and destroyed.

If you fight for anything, fight any concept of crushing dissent. Protest anytime you see a 10:1 police to protestor ratio like in Tampa.

You cannot co-opt the system with a 3rd party, but if you give up the right to dissent against any leader, ruler, or government you give up any hope of one day being able to establish freedom as a system and will gradually lose the freedom to opt out as I have.

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This is akin to sayin:

I am voting for fear, not faith. But I am full of faith because I am voting.

"Look I got a sticker to prove it. Let's have a beer and talk about how free we are to the other sticker bearing humans."

Sorry to troll your comments ITT, but you are kind of calling out for this kind of honesty from what I can tell.